U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Florida
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-27-2008, 07:12 AM
 
670 posts, read 1,508,183 times
Reputation: 269

Advertisements

_

The State of Fl requires a 63 hour class and a passing grade of 75% for 100 questions that you have hours to answer and if you fail can take multiple times.


http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr...l_Rev_0308.pdf (broken link)
http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr...ents/sl_bk.pdf (broken link)


Yet, requires 1200 school HOURS study and a grueling 8 hour+ practical test for a barber!
Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

Are the wise gentlemen of Tallahassee maybe not weighing this correctly?

Yes, the National Association of Realtors would like you to think that Realtors are professionals and so would hundreds of TV adds that you have seen just this year.

But how many High School graduates that worked as waitresses / bartenders are qualified to handle your Real Estate transactions?

I'd like to see a Fl thread that has to do with:

1st FL licensing requirements of Real Estate agents.
2nd Realtors in FL and their lobbyist group NAR (National Association of Realtors)
3rd Whether information provided to the Realtors MLS in FL should be public (right now it is private and therefore the 6% "standard" commission as it becomes a monopoly of sorts.)

There is a separate thread for the Fl Real market (please post there for market info) and if we keep it civil the thread should not be closed.
Thank you.

_
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-27-2008, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
8,488 posts, read 17,874,620 times
Reputation: 5397
The class is short but the passing rate in Fla is only around 50%.
Making the class longer does not neccesarily mean it will be harder to pass the test.

There are some agents I wonder how they got their license but there are people in other professions I wonder how they managed to get out of bed in the morning and those professions include lawyers and doctors who have had years of school.

Speaking of barbers, I have a harder time finding a good barber than anything. Some of these places I have gone for a haircut may as well be called 'Whiskey and Scissors". So that shows that hours and hours of schooling and long tests mean nothing.

The MLS question has come up too many times already. The commission is not standard, there are other choices for those that do not wish to use a realtor and the MLS is a system that is privately owned and operated so there is no way it should be public.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-27-2008, 08:31 AM
 
670 posts, read 1,508,183 times
Reputation: 269
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Peterson View Post
The class is short but the passing rate in Fla is only around 50%.
Yes, but you can take it multiple times and misses the point.
Does 63 hours and a High School diploma make a professional?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Peterson View Post
There are some agents I wonder how they got their license but there are people in other professions I wonder how they managed to get out of bed in the morning and those professions include lawyers and doctors who have had years of school.
Well, that is the point isn't it?
Are doctors and lawyers a professional group? Yes, College and University.
Real Estate agents although touted as professionals are not.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Peterson View Post
The MLS question has come up too many times already...the MLS is a system that is privately owned and operated so there is no way it should be public.
Again, that's the question. It could be changed in Fl? All it takes is for Tallahassee to change it.
_
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-27-2008, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
8,488 posts, read 17,874,620 times
Reputation: 5397
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbravo View Post
Yes, but you can take it multiple times and misses the point.
Does 63 hours and a High School diploma make a professional?
You can take the bar examination multiple times and I was not aware that there was a defined amount of time you need to spend in school to be considered a professional.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbravo View Post
Well, that is the point isn't it?
Are doctors and lawyers a professional group? Yes, College and University.
Real Estate agents although touted as professionals are not.
I am quite a bit more professional than many doctors and lawyers I have met.
Does the 1200 school hours a barber spends make him more professional? The answer would be a big resounding, NO.


Quote:
Originally Posted by jbravo View Post
Again, that's the question. It could be changed in Fl? All it takes is for Tallahassee to change it.
_
Tallahassee could try and take over the MLS but they would have a hard time and a long legal battle to try and take over a private enterprise. One that by the way is doing nothing at all illegal.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-27-2008, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
8,488 posts, read 17,874,620 times
Reputation: 5397
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbravo View Post
To compare yourself to a lawyer or doctor is somewhat ludicrous, which was my point.
A profession: a calling requiring specialized knowledge and often long and intensive academic preparation.
63 hours versus 10,000s for a doctor?
Same ball park?
Do not think so Mike.
My point was that it does not matter how many hours of class you go to it does not equate to being a professional.

If 10,000 hrs of class makes a professional we should never see a misdiagnosis or the wrong leg amputated yet we do all the time.

And I will compare myself to a lawyer or a doctor. I know just as much if not more of what I need to know regarding my line of work than many doctors and lawyers know about theirs.

Let me reiterate that it does not matter how many hours of classes you take.
This does not make you a professional. Knowledge of your chosen line of work and the degree to which you carry it out is what makes one a professional.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-27-2008, 10:22 AM
 
Location: America
6,985 posts, read 15,443,271 times
Reputation: 2067
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Peterson View Post
My point was that it does not matter how many hours of class you go to it does not equate to being a professional.

If 10,000 hrs of class makes a professional we should never see a misdiagnosis or the wrong leg amputated yet we do all the time.

And I will compare myself to a lawyer or a doctor. I know just as much if not more of what I need to know regarding my line of work than many doctors and lawyers know about theirs.

Let me reiterate that it does not matter how many hours of classes you take.
This does not make you a professional. Knowledge of your chosen line of work and the degree to which you carry it out is what makes one a professional.
you also have a degree in Finance though, don't you?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-27-2008, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
8,488 posts, read 17,874,620 times
Reputation: 5397
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Style View Post
you also have a degree in Finance though, don't you?
Why, am I a financial planner?
Do I write loans?
There is no reason a realtor needs a degree in finance although some do have it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-27-2008, 10:28 AM
 
Location: America
6,985 posts, read 15,443,271 times
Reputation: 2067
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Peterson View Post
Why, am I a financial planner?
Do I write loans?
There is no reason a realtor needs a degree in finance although some do have it.
I didn't inquire as to what a Financial degree would lend itself too. I asked if you personally had one. I thought you said you did. Maybe I got you confused with someone else.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-27-2008, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
8,488 posts, read 17,874,620 times
Reputation: 5397
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Style View Post
I didn't inquire as to what a Financial degree would lend itself too. I asked if you personally had one. I thought you said you did. Maybe I got you confused with someone else.
You got me confused with someone else.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-27-2008, 10:36 AM
 
960 posts, read 1,351,800 times
Reputation: 409
I have a question. Do real estate agents have to have insurance?
Insurance agents have to have (using the term very loosely) a sort of "malpractice insurance".
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Options
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2016 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Florida
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. | Please obey Forum Rules | Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top