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Old 01-15-2007, 12:31 PM
 
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This is correct but you can also have deductions to reduce this also, i do not know what they are yet , have not had the time to look further ...


To the other poster jonneyboy or such , yes it is cheaper then florida and i have yet to see or hear of any crime. sorry you feel the way you do and i can say i do UNDERSTAND the northerners have been invading us for years and now there is no more room . in fact we are the good floridians moving to your parts ~ teachers , cops, firefighters ect . not the trash!
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:23 PM
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Location: Sebastian/ FL
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Perhaps a more accurate way to track this would be to see how many U-Haul trailers were rented elsewhere, dropped off here and vice versa. I'd bet more people move themselves than hire professionals. (I would never hire a moving company again. Their rates are astronomical and they don't give fair reimbursement for what they damage.)

BTW: I'm a native and we're outta here ASAP!
We moved here to FL (Port St. Lucie) in 2003, moved ourselves with a U-Haul. Price? $1500. Compared with moving comp. and prices I got quoted for were in the $4000 to $6000 range! Moving yourself is stressy, no doubt, but also rewarding. If you have the money and can affort it, go with a moving company. Otherwise, the cheaper way out is hauling it yourself.
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:25 PM
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Location: Sebastian/ FL
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BTW ...We are not natives, but we are out of here ASAP as well, back to PA, moving ourselves yet AGAIN (Guess we're getting the hang of it...lol)
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Old 02-03-2007, 08:50 AM
 
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I have no data to back anything I say...this is just a safe place to rant about how much I hated living in Florida.

I lived in Tampa for 6 years and have recently moved to Alabama. As an avid traveler I feel I gave Tampa a fair shot but I think its one of the most disgusting cities in this country.

Talk about suburban sprawl. The downtown is dead. Everything shuts down at 5pm. The streets are covered in potholes. Ybor city is a Bourbon Street hopeful and just as ****/beer smelling. Tampa's tourism was based almost solely on the sex industry. And not the pleasant kind in the form of pornography and strip clubs....but there was plenty of that. Mostly child sex trafficking. It seemed as if central florida was a pedophile paradise.

Oh yeah, there IS Busch Gardens. Nestled in one of the most impoverished, dirty and dangerous parts of the city.

I found the people to generally be quite rude, as most of them are transplants from the Northeast, who mostly like to BORE you with their tales of "how slow things are down South." I could stand on one side of the street with my two small children and giant pregnant belly and watch car after car after car pass and not stop to let me and my kids cross the street. Oh yea, that brings me to the proud fact that Tampa has the nations highest rate of pedestrian deaths.

And then there is the housing situation which is ultimately why we left.

My husband worked 70hrs a week. We always wanted me to stay at home with the kids until they were in elementary school. Even making 65k a yr, we could barely afford our rent. We couldnt AFFORD for me to work with childcare costing nearly $400/wk. When we went to buy we found that we could also barely afford an architectual shoebox of a house in a neighborhood filled with child predators (thank u familywatchdog.com) and coke dealers...charming.
We move to AL (which has its disgusting parts too, dont get me wrong, all places do) but we were able to buy a 5br/3bath, all origional wood floors, historical home in the heart of midtown for $60,000 less than the cheapest, dirtiest home in central Florida.

I think the whole state is gross, I am so glad to be gone, everyone there is miserable. The grouchy old New England transplants, the impoverished poor, the dwindling middle class. The only people who like it are the people who can afford to have a nice house and walk on the beach and play tennis and eat conch. Who probably earned their millions selling children (be they sex slaves or boybanders..or both) or running a variety of strip clubs
;-)

that part was a joke....


mostly
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:21 AM
 
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Wow an average of 1351 per month moving in and 1418 moving out. Locals are looking for greener pasture outside the state and outsiders are looking at Florida for new life.

For the first time in 30 years, United Van Lines Inc. says it moved more people out of Florida than in, and analysts see that as a sign that consumers are looking elsewhere for a cheaper slice of life.

The nation's largest moving company reported 16,212 inbound shipments to Florida last year and 17,019 outbound shipments. United moved more people to Florida in each year from 1999 to 2004, but the number of inbound moves fell in 2005, spokeswoman Jennifer Bonham said.

United's report shows that North Carolina, Oregon and South Carolina were the top destination states in 2006. Michigan, hit hard by automobile industry layoffs, North Dakota and New Jersey were the states that saw the most people leave.

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you have a hidden agenda because you keep saying that floridans are to negitive and the problem s dont exist yet your topics show that not only do they exist but that you aknowledge the facts.i dont understand you yet ,are there to people using your handel?
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Old 02-03-2007, 10:11 AM
 
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I have no data to back anything I say...this is just a safe place to rant about how much I hated living in Florida.

I lived in Tampa for 6 years and have recently moved to Alabama. As an avid traveler I feel I gave Tampa a fair shot but I think its one of the most disgusting cities in this country.

Talk about suburban sprawl. The downtown is dead. Everything shuts down at 5pm. The streets are covered in potholes. Ybor city is a Bourbon Street hopeful and just as ****/beer smelling. Tampa's tourism was based almost solely on the sex industry. And not the pleasant kind in the form of pornography and strip clubs....but there was plenty of that. Mostly child sex trafficking. It seemed as if central florida was a pedophile paradise.

Oh yeah, there IS Busch Gardens. Nestled in one of the most impoverished, dirty and dangerous parts of the city.

I found the people to generally be quite rude, as most of them are transplants from the Northeast, who mostly like to BORE you with their tales of "how slow things are down South." I could stand on one side of the street with my two small children and giant pregnant belly and watch car after car after car pass and not stop to let me and my kids cross the street. Oh yea, that brings me to the proud fact that Tampa has the nations highest rate of pedestrian deaths.

And then there is the housing situation which is ultimately why we left.

My husband worked 70hrs a week. We always wanted me to stay at home with the kids until they were in elementary school. Even making 65k a yr, we could barely afford our rent. We couldnt AFFORD for me to work with childcare costing nearly $400/wk. When we went to buy we found that we could also barely afford an architectual shoebox of a house in a neighborhood filled with child predators (thank u familywatchdog.com) and coke dealers...charming.
We move to AL (which has its disgusting parts too, dont get me wrong, all places do) but we were able to buy a 5br/3bath, all origional wood floors, historical home in the heart of midtown for $60,000 less than the cheapest, dirtiest home in central Florida.

I think the whole state is gross, I am so glad to be gone, everyone there is miserable. The grouchy old New England transplants, the impoverished poor, the dwindling middle class. The only people who like it are the people who can afford to have a nice house and walk on the beach and play tennis and eat conch. Who probably earned their millions selling children (be they sex slaves or boybanders..or both) or running a variety of strip clubs
;-)

that part was a joke....


mostly
Alas - I am a Tampa native - born and raised, as was my Dad, and I have to say that almost everything in this post is 100% true. The only things I disagree with somewhat are the "unfriendly" people - there are a lot of friendly people, native Floridians, working folks, etc. But it is true there are a lot of grouchy, rude transplants in the area. The other thing is I disagree about Ybor - a few years ago it was a scary place to be, it was just a place for hundreds of thousands of (underrage) people to go and get trashed. Lots of violent crime back then, but it is now a nicer mix of shops and restaurants with an electic European vibe. I personally like it a lot.

HOWEVER - Tampa has always been a place known for crime. Back in the old days the mafia was prevalent here - (Trafficante). It is completely true that the city is FILLED, and I mean filled with sexual predators. Lots of drug related crime and prostitution, too. Tampa is known for it's many strip clubs and adult stores. When I lived in Tampa, I lived in several different homes/apartments, and was a victim of many crimes - mostly theft. Each member of my family were victims of individual crimes as well. Honestly, there is NO neighborhood inside the city of Tampa that I would feel safe or would live now. The further out you go, like New Tampa, Brandon or developments, the better off you are. I live up here in Dade City, now and a lady moved down the street here up from a Carrollwood, a so-called "nice" area, and she was crying as she had been robbed of EVERYTHING SHE OWNED while living there - twice! Lost her pets as well. She hated Tampa, too dangerous.

Interestingly, the past couple days on our local TV there is an ex-cop running for mayor. He is talking about how the crime in Tampa is seriously UNDERREPORTED and MISCATEGORIZED in order to make the department look good, and the city look better. Some murders not even reported!! In the guy's own words, if people new how bad the crime REALLY is in Tampa, no one would ever feel safe!
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Old 02-03-2007, 10:24 AM
 
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msjess0125, perhaps it was the area you lived in?? I have read some very positive posts here regarding florida. Unfortunately, there are sickos everywhere. Here in WV based on crime statistics and sex offenders we are rated VERY high. Upon doing some research I have found some florida towns to actually be SAFER than where I currently live right outside of Chas WV. I am currently raising my 8 children here and also one in the oven and upon viewing these stats it would be safer for me to move. We also have seedy areas with strip clubs etc...but I avoid those areas because nothing much there I want to see. LOL. Anyway I guess what I am trying to say is no place is really safe and you have to always keep that in mind no matter where you live. Growing up here I have always felt relatively safe but based on statistics you would not think so.

Childcare is expensive regarless of where you live...it is a business and like most business they are looking at making money THEY sure arent doing it out of the kindess of their hearts.

I also find it hilarious how everyone here complains amount people moving INTO their state. The floridians complaining of the northerners coming down and the Georgians complaining about the Floridians etc. Maybe if everyone welcomed each other and treated each other as so...everyone would be happier.
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Old 02-03-2007, 10:26 AM
 
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my mob of in laws and husband are all Tampa natives, they all live in Carrollwood too...and think there is no better, more beautiful place to live in the country....and they REALLY believe it

my husband is the only one who had ever traveled outside of Tampa so he knows better


Ur right about Ybor, I take it back...that Centro Ybor did kick things up down there. Nice little restaurants and shops. I used to work at that Urban Outfitters and it was a blast.

Dade City is really nice too. My sister in law lives out there in Lake Jovita. Very quaint and pretty.
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Old 02-03-2007, 10:33 AM
 
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msjess0125, perhaps it was the area you lived in?? I have read some very positive posts here regarding florida. Unfortunately, there are sickos everywhere. Here in WV based on crime statistics and sex offenders we are rated VERY high. Upon doing some research I have found some florida towns to actually be SAFER than where I currently live right outside of Chas WV. I am currently raising my 8 children here and also one in the oven and upon viewing these stats it would be safer for me to move. We also have seedy areas with strip clubs etc...but I avoid those areas because nothing much there I want to see. LOL. Anyway I guess what I am trying to say is no place is really safe and you have to always keep that in mind no matter where you live. Growing up here I have always felt relatively safe but based on statistics you would not think so.

Childcare is expensive regarless of where you live...it is a business and like most business they are looking at making money THEY sure arent doing it out of the kindess of their hearts.

I also find it hilarious how everyone here complains amount people moving INTO their state. The floridians complaining of the northerners coming down and the Georgians complaining about the Floridians etc. Maybe if everyone welcomed each other and treated each other as so...everyone would be happier.
I moved around quite a bit in Tampa. It was all, to me, disgusting. Like I said, its just my personal rant based on my personal experiences.
I never said there werent towns worse than Tampa as far as sex offenders go. I'm sure there are.
I am also very aware that childcare is expensive no matter where you live. I am aware it is a business and they have to make money. I was never expecting childcare to be free. I am also aware that all places have their safe and unsafe places. I'm very well traveled. Have lived in many places. Some places are safer than others and for my PERSONAL standards, Tampa Florida is a seedy sesspool, is unattractive and the housing market sucks for most middle class people. There are no seedy areas in the city because their zoning laws are really loose. There are strip clubs and porn palaces littered throughout the neighborhoods. As a matter of fact there are more adult businessess per sq mile there than in any other US city.

All regions are different with different cultures. Some people like the way their region is and that is why they are uneasy when people from another region start moving in. It would be nice if everyone loved and welcomed everyone else all the time, but this is reality...and thats not happening. I think people have the right to their opinions and their rants.
I'm glad some people found paradise in Florida. I am simply not one of them.
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:52 PM
 
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msjess I am sorry you did not like FL..may I ask what brought you to florida in the first place?? I agree strip clubs just bring crime and drugs they kinda go hand in hand. I would think the people of Tampa would do something since it is so bad. I know here if someone tries to open a club up anymore they have to go through all kinds of hassle and it is almost impossible due to the outrage of the community.
You also was talking about the childcare. Upon reading your first post you came across as if Fl daycare was more expensive..I was just trying to point out it was expensive everywhere.
Hope you enjoy were you are living now. For me I would not want to live in Tampa either...I think a smaller community outside of tampa would be nicer to raise a family but then again I dont see how people raise their children in the heart of NYC or any other major city due to the crime,traffic, drugs etc that most large cities have.
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