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Old 01-16-2007, 12:51 PM
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Location: Tampa Bay
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Look at the Florida numbers. According to United Vanlines shipping numbers, Florida had more people leaving then coming in to the state for all of 2006. Inbound 16,212 vs outbound 17,019. I think the baby boomers might be heading to other parts of the country to retire. If those numbers keep going that way Florida has some major problems ahead. http://www.unitedvanlines.com/united...udy-04-07A.pdf
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Fiji
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You know, yesterday I was driving up I-75 in Central Florida and I counted at least five moving vans headed north. I don't know where they were headed, but they were headed north..........I believe it, people have had enough.
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:33 PM
 
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we live in fl for 15 yrs .were getting ready to retire and were heading to ga we feel the need for seasons and the housing is a bit cheaper but i feel it all evens out in the end .but i did have a wonderful 15 yrs here.
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Port St. Lucie and Okeechobee, FL
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Look at the Florida numbers. According to United Vanlines shipping numbers, Florida had more people leaving then coming in to the state for all of 2006. Inbound 16,212 vs outbound 17,019.
That's a very small sample, and biased towards those who use one specific moving van company. The US Census figures show a net gain ("net" means taking both inbound and outbound into account) of nearly 1,000 people per day, or 365,000 per year. The United numbers are a drop in the bucket.

They also offer no explanation of why they are seeing more outbound than inbound. Most people use moving van services because their company pays for it. All this "study" indicates is that more corporate-types are being transferred out than are being transferred in That may be because the corporations are hiring good people in Florida and transferring them later.

My observationis that most people who movie into Florida do so in UHaul type vehicles, not moving vans. It would be more informative to see how many rental trucks are being droped off in Florida as opposed to how many are being rented for the outgoing trips. My understanding is that the rental companies have to drive empty trucks out of the state because they have a surplus.
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Living in Paradise
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I will said that this is relative to the nature of many of the people that live in Florida. We do have at least 1000 individuals that relocate to Florida in search of a better outcome in life. Many of the familes have to go back their previous locality because their plan did not mature.

The construction industry bring folks from all areas in search work and at times this is seasonal. This IN/OUTbound has happen for years and will continue regarless of the current situation or condition
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:55 PM
 
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Here is a link to the article.
http://www1.tcpalm.com/tcp/business/article/0,2541,TCP_998_5273974,00.html (broken link)

It is significant because it was the first time in THIRTY YEARS that United has recorded this result. To me, soft factors like this are more telling than anything. This is where this board, other blogs, and stories from the street shine; the gray area is the most interesting to me.
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:58 PM
 
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You know, yesterday I was driving up I-75 in Central Florida and I counted at least five moving vans headed north. I don't know where they were headed, but they were headed north..........I believe it, people have had enough.
Most trucks move while you're sleeping so the 5 vehicles you saw is an inaccurate account. And besides they could have dropped off and been outbounding back to Joisey
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Living in Paradise
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Here is a link to the article.
http://www1.tcpalm.com/tcp/business/article/0,2541,TCP_998_5273974,00.html (broken link)

It is significant because it was the first time in THIRTY YEARS that United has recorded this result. To me, soft factors like this are more telling than anything. This is where this board, other blogs, and stories from the street shine; the gray area is the most interesting to me.
This is good info, but this is the first year and the data cannot be compare to perform a analysis on cause and effect. The baseline can be this report and by 2009 a more precise report will show the true factors...
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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i think there already is a BIG problem!
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Old 01-16-2007, 06:07 PM
kar kar started this thread
 
Location: Tampa Bay
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That's a very small sample, and biased towards those who use one specific moving van company. The US Census figures show a net gain ("net" means taking both inbound and outbound into account) of nearly 1,000 people per day, or 365,000 per year. The United numbers are a drop in the bucket.

They also offer no explanation of why they are seeing more outbound than inbound. Most people use moving van services because their company pays for it. All this "study" indicates is that more corporate-types are being transferred out than are being transferred in That may be because the corporations are hiring good people in Florida and transferring them later.

My observationis that most people who movie into Florida do so in UHaul type vehicles, not moving vans. It would be more informative to see how many rental trucks are being droped off in Florida as opposed to how many are being rented for the outgoing trips. My understanding is that the rental companies have to drive empty trucks out of the state because they have a surplus.
United Vanlines controls over 30% of the market place. This is not a "drop in a bucket". These numbers are actual real numbers not some "observation". Your "observation" of people that move to Florida only use Uhaul types of vehicles is crazy. Also, it is not a "study". These are real numbers and how do you know that these are "corporate-types" being transferred. The numbers in this report are trucks full of household goods and not empty.

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