[TANaples]

Originally Posted by DailyJournalist

I do not!

Just read my status. Unfortunately, it's not permanently.

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by FringedNFab

I don't kayak and have enough sense to stay away from lakes and ponds in the south so that's not an issue for me. I do however see that many avid outdoors people DO pay no mind to alligators and go out on lakes and rivers down there when kayaking. Many videos of Myakka State Park show people doing this very thing.

Canoeing can be fun...Canoe Outpost just west of Arcadia.

[Tungsten_Udder]

Originally Posted by TANaples

Both the Federal Government, the State of New York, and even the state of Flordia, apparently didn't think so, since all his legal documents pointed to NYS residency, no matter how long he had been living in this state.

He could have gotten a Florida driver's license, voted in Florida, etc. Florida, legally, considers him a resident if he is living in Florida. I can give you a link to the relevant laws from the State of Florida.

[TANaples]

Originally Posted by Tungsten_Udder

He could have gotten a Florida driver's license, voted in Florida, etc. Florida, legally, considers him a resident if he is living in Florida. I can give you a link to the relevant laws from the State of Florida.

Nope, he paid NYS TAXES. He had a legal address in NY. He voted there. Case closed. Past history. Don't worry. FLORIDA didn't lose any money and NYS gained a whole lot of money.

In fact, when we bought our house last December, I was the one who had to Homestead the place because I had residency before him. Ain't that a kick? Me who had to be dragged down here kicking and screaming was the legal Florida resident.

Someday, I will return.

[Tungsten_Udder]

Originally Posted by TANaples

Nope, he paid NYS TAXES.

Nope what? That's irrelevant. He qualifies as a Florida resident under Florida law.

He had a legal address in NY. He voted there.

It's not as if I didn't read your post. It's that what you're saying doesn't matter.

In fact, when we bought our house last December, I was the one who had to Homestead the place because I had residency before him. Ain't that a kick? Me who had to be dragged down here kicking and screaming was the legal Florida resident.

One is considered a Florida resident, legally, once one has a Florida address from the day the address is established to six months after the fact, depending on what one is establishing the residency for (such as getting a driver's license, registering to vote, receiving reduced tuitions, etc.)

[TANaples]

Originally Posted by Tungsten_Udder

Nope what? That's irrelevant. He qualifies as a Florida resident under Florida law. It's not as if I didn't read your post. It's that what you're saying doesn't matter. One is considered a Florida resident, legally, once one has a Florida address from the day the address is established to six months after the fact, depending on what one is establishing the residency for (such as getting a driver's license, registering to vote, receiving reduced tuitions, etc.)

You conveniently neglected to consider another part of my post. He had a TEMPORARY Florida license. When he went to Homestead our house, he COULDN'T DO IT. They actually said he was not considered a FLORIDA resident without a PERMANENT Florida license. I had go down to the County Clerk's Office and give them MY PERMANENT FLORIDA license because my husband could not Homstead the house. I HAD TO DO IT.

You know more than the COUNTY CLERK??????

We had an accountant do our taxes those years. He did not question any of this. Our federal returns were filed with my NY address. We were not legally separated and filed joint returns. Are YOU an accountant? Are YOU an attorney?

Our daughter also went to a SUNY college and got NYS resident tuition. No, she/we didn't want her going to school in Florida. She has her teacher certification in NYS and that is where she now teaches.

[ChrisA70]

Sometimes you have to just agree, it will get you nowhere to argue with someone who knows everything about everything.

Originally Posted by TANaples

You conveniently neglected to consider another part of my post. He had a TEMPORARY Florida license. When he went to Homestead our house, he COULDN'T DO IT. They actually said he was not considered a FLORIDA resident without a PERMANENT Florida license. I had go down to the County Clerk's Office and give them MY PERMANENT FLORIDA license because my husband could not Homstead the house. I HAD TO DO IT.

You know more than the COUNTY CLERK??????

We had an accountant do our taxes those years. He did not question any of this. Our federal returns were filed with my NY address. We were not legally separated and filed joint returns. Are YOU an accountant? Are YOU an attorney?

Our daughter also went to a SUNY college and got NYS resident tuition. No, she/we didn't want her going to school in Florida. She has her teacher certification in NYS and that is where she now teaches.

[Tungsten_Udder]

Originally Posted by TANaples

You conveniently neglected to consider another part of my post. He had a TEMPORARY Florida license.

That's completely irrelevant to residency. That's why I neglected it. You went on and on about a bunch of stuff that has no bearing on either Florida's legal definitions of residency or the conventional, everyday Joe sense of the term.

When he went to Homestead our house, he COULDN'T DO IT. They actually said he was not considered a FLORIDA resident without a PERMANENT Florida license.

You're talking about trying to get a homestead exemption? You don't (or didn't) qualify for that tax break because it has rules that have to be followed. That you didn't qualify for a tax break doesn't mean that you're not legally a Florida resident for other purposes.

Per the Florida State Statutes, to qualify as a Florida resident for purposes of a driver's license, you only need to have resided in the state for 30 days and have a proof of address, which includes utility bills sent to your address.

Per the Florida State Statutes, to qualify as a Florida resident to register to vote in Florida, the requirements are the same as those for obtaining a driver's license, except there is NO time requirement.

etc.

To qualify for a tax break, however, you have to meet the rules for that tax break.

I'm sure your City Clerk is familiar with these statutes. What is the clerk's name in question that you spoke with? We'll email or call them and see whether they are familiar with the statutes (and if not, we should perhaps notify his/her superiors). We can do the same with your accountant, to see just how familiar he is with Florida statutes. What is his name?

[gypsychic]

tungsten_udder is correct. Here is a link to a page that will help TANaples or anyone else trying to understand Florida residency.

What are the requirements to become a resident of Florida?

[TANaples]

Originally Posted by Tungsten_Udder

That's completely irrelevant to residency. That's why I neglected it. You went on and on about a bunch of stuff that has no bearing on either Florida's legal definitions of residency or the conventional, everyday Joe sense of the term. You're talking about trying to get a homestead exemption? You don't (or didn't) qualify for that tax break because it has rules that have to be followed. That you didn't qualify for a tax break doesn't mean that you're not legally a Florida resident for other purposes.

Per the Florida State Statutes, to qualify as a Florida resident for purposes of a driver's license, you only need to have resided in the state for 30 days and have a proof of address, which includes utility bills sent to your address.

Per the Florida State Statutes, to qualify as a Florida resident to register to vote in Florida, the requirements are the same as those for obtaining a driver's license, except there is NO time requirement.

etc.

To qualify for a tax break, however, you have to meet the rules for that tax break.

I'm sure your City Clerk is familiar with these statutes. What is the clerk's name in question that you spoke with? We'll email or call them and see whether they are familiar with the statutes (and if not, we should perhaps notify his/her superiors). We can do the same with your accountant, to see just how familiar he is with Florida statutes. What is his name?

I came here in May 1970 when I was 22. I worked in NY for 4 months and lived with my parents. No, my name was not on the lease there. My name was not on the lease in Florida either. I had no job in Florida and lived off my bank account and gave me roomies money.

I had no driver's license in EITHER state, because I could not drive. I was not registered to vote in either state.

I left Florida in December 1970. I lived in Florida SEVEN MONTHS!!!!! I MUST have been a Florida resident. Even though as far as any record in Florida, I DID NOT EXIST.

Oh, man. Florida was cheated of a resident even back then!!!!!!!!!

It just seems to me that the state of Florida is doing everything it possibly can to declare ANYBODY a permanent resident. I can only say to a lot of snowbirds, be careful. Be very, very careful with this state.