[TANaples]

Originally Posted by Doctor Octagon

What do you mean "people who can make it in Florida?" A lot of people move for better opportunities (such as career, lifestyle change, scenery change, quality of life change, etc...). I used to live in Asheville NC and I'd take it in a second over Orlando. In a second!

It doesnt mean I couldnt hack it in FL, or couldnt make it in FL, I just prefer hills and trees vs flat ground and concete. I prefer friendly English speaking folks over the rude and crude that FL so often attracts. I probably hear Spanish as much as I do English where I live in Orlando.

if you are "making it" in Florida and dislike it. You should move so you can make way for somebody else who LIKES Florida to take your place.

[psouth]

Originally Posted by TANaples

if you are "making it" in Florida and dislike it. You should move so you can make way for somebody else who LIKES Florida to take your place.

Who might that be?

[TANaples]

Originally Posted by psouth

who might that be?

:d

Naming. Typo.

[Doctor Octagon]

Originally Posted by **NoodLes**

Yes, I don't even feel like I'm in America living in Orlando. Its getting ridiculous here. It also amazes me how companies will hire someone who barely knows English and don't care about the quality of customer service. They don't even WANT to learn English. Very shameful, and they also are rude and discourteous in the stores, like not moving to let you by or just acting foolish.

Yup. Especially where I am in the Waterford Lakes/Avalon area. Nice homes, nice little shops, and some ghetto-a$$ people are all over the place. Rude, crude, obnoxious, loud, wont speak English, run red lights, wont merge to let you in, etc... Orlando's best days were in the 90's.

[OrlandoRE_Miracle]

Do you think those people live in Waterford, or are they coming in from other areas to do shopping?
Also, I was wondering if you experience flooding issues (like with the recent heavy rain) over in East Orlando? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Doctor Octagon

Yup. Especially where I am in the Waterford Lakes/Avalon area. Nice homes, nice little shops, and some ghetto-a$$ people are all over the place. Rude, crude, obnoxious, loud, wont speak English, run red lights, wont merge to let you in, etc... Orlando's best days were in the 90's.

[firsttimeowner]

what do you like and dislike most about Naples? I was there a few weeks ago and almost bought a house in the Estates but luckily I realized that there was a lot of crime occuring out there and the police did not seem to be able to stop it. So despite the great deal and the beautiful new house I backed out. I just didnt feel safe.

If having a job was not an issue where in Florida would be the best place to invest with prices as low as they are right now? Where will prices go up and where can I make a profilt 3 years from now?

Thanks

[dmccauley]

Originally Posted by firsttimeowner

Where will prices go up and where can I make a profilt 3 years from now?

Thanks

IMO your not going to make any profit in 3 years. There is way to much inventory and the banks haven't even begun to list them all. It is way to hard for a seller in this ecomony to even compete with the prices of short sales and bank owned to break even let alone make a profit.

[EnjoyTheSilence]

Florida is a great place to visit. Orlando has some of the world's best theme parks, Miami is a famous party city and there are other attractions for tourists.

Living here though...oh boy, that's a different kettle of fish. I've lived in South Florida (Miami) for over 6 years and I can't wait to move out. When I initially moved here, the palm trees and sunshine blinded me to how this part of the world really is. When I started truly living here, working, commuting and interacting with people here, I quickly began to hate the place.

Firstly, many northerners envy FL for the weather, but the weather really isn't that great. For 9 months of the year, the humidity is unbearable and there's little respite from the sticky, oppressive heat that forces you to have your AC on 24/7. I was in Boston a few days ago where it was actually hotter than here in Miami (93 degrees), yet the heat in Boston was 100 times less oppressive than 80 degree heat in Miami (I could even go out and do things, walk around and have fun without feeling like I stepped into a sauna).

Also, having just got back from a real city and a truly beautiful state (Boston, Massachusetts), Miami and Florida in general seem even more soulless than they did before. There's no character here, no old buildings, little diversity in architecture, strip malls, gas stations, fast food restaurants, condos and cookie cutter homes on every corner. Miami is basically one big, ugly suburb and a huge grid system city, just like Los Angeles. There are also probably more fast food chains in South Miami than there are in the entire state of MA.

The worst part; the people. It is very difficult to make friends in a place like this, where so many people are pretentious, rude, self-serving and narcissistic beyond belief. It is hard to strike up a normal conversation with anyone here and many people don't even speak English. Culturally, South Florida is completely different to the northeast, or to any other part of the United States. People here tend to be very rude too and most lack respect and common courtesy. South Florida itself has become a haven for immigrants from South/Central America, many of whom have decided to turn this place into the places they left behind, rather than assimilate.

The drivers here are terrible too...horribly reckless, stupid and macho (bad mix). People say that drivers are as bad in Boston, yet I drove through Boston during rush hour on Friday and while I saw quite a few examples of aggressive/big city driving, it wasn't remotely as intimidating as driving on an expressway in Miami. What also shocked me in MA was that drivers were actually courteous and would even stop to allow you to make a left hand turn, even if it was their right of way. That happened to me many times in MA, but it has never happened in Miami.

There is simply nothing for us to do here. In MA, people walked, jogged, cycled and were out at all times of the day/night. South Florida is so car-centric that you rarely see this. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that if you're not a sun/beach/club person, you will find this place very boring.

As soon as the economy picks up and we have a bit more saved, we're out of here.....Florida is not for us.

[airboat5]

I was born and raised in oviedo in the 60s to the 90s.I moved away to serve in the air force. when I came back ten years later I got lost in own home town. this state grown into a big mess and I dont feel at home anymore. growing up in fl was great in the 70s and 80s but that fl is long gone. it makes me sick because Iam still drawn to my home state. its like looking at your burned down childhood home. most of my family still lives there. thats the only reason I still visit. good luck to those hanging there and god bless yall.

[Doctor Octagon]

Originally Posted by OrlandoRE_Miracle

Do you think those people live in Waterford, or are they coming in from other areas to do shopping?
Also, I was wondering if you experience flooding issues (like with the recent heavy rain) over in East Orlando? Thanks.

It's both, people who live out here and visitors. It's amazing how a nice place can attract that ghetto-ness, discourtesy, and rude behavior.

No, no flooding. Fingers crossed. But we have flood insurance too, just in case.