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Old 01-31-2007, 01:08 PM
 
Location: on an island
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Crist wants voting paper trail
Florida should move to a voting system that provides a paper trail, Gov. Charlie Crist will announce Thursday. The estimated cost for the new system: $32.5 million.
BY MARC CA****, MARY ELLEN KLAS AND GARY FINEOUT
mca****@MiamiHerald.com


TALLAHASSEE - Gov. Charlie Crist wants to spend nearly $33 million to replace Florida's maligned ATM-style voting machines with systems that provide a clear paper trail.

The decision, if approved by state lawmakers, would end one of the most bitter election debates in Florida: whether the electronic touch-screen machines have bugs in their secret software that could make votes disappear...


Has anyone seen those stickers that say I Voted---I Think
That's a lot of money, but I wonder if it might just get passed.
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:16 PM
 
Location: a primitive state
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I'm pretty sure the voting machines we use in Alachua County provide a paper trail. We fill in the dots with a sharpie marker on a piece of paper then feed it into a scanner.

The electronics could be tampered with, but at least we have a physical trace of what we did. And I guess each person could make a secret and inconspicuous dot somewhere on the page to prove it is theirs.
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Citrus county, FL
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I hope it passes, there should always be a paper trail.
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Old 01-31-2007, 02:39 PM
 
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there was a documentary on HBO about volusia county and the "negative" number of votes that al gore got. I think it was called "stealing demoracy"
It was amazing...they hired an european software expert and he demonstrated how to hack the smart cards that power the voting machines...he could totally control it.
If you care anything about the voting process, you must watch this documentary. It is very, very scary!
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Old 01-31-2007, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Living in Paradise
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$33 million to replace Florida's maligned ATM-style voting machines is a lot of money. Need a better system, $33 million is a big sum of money......
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Port St. Lucie and Okeechobee, FL
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I'm pretty sure the voting machines we use in Alachua County provide a paper trail. We fill in the dots with a sharpie marker on a piece of paper then feed it into a scanner.

The electronics could be tampered with, but at least we have a physical trace of what we did. And I guess each person could make a secret and inconspicuous dot somewhere on the page to prove it is theirs.
We use the same system in St. Lucie County. There has never been a problem with over voting, under voting or any other problems. When there has been a recount, the results have been consistent within a tiny percentage every time.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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I really like the touch screen machines...I can usually vote my entire ballot in less than 2 minutes. But it would be nice to know there's "proof" that my vote counted. I don't know what really happened in some of those counties that supposedly had problems. But with touch screen, it gives you a summary at the end as to how you voted and gives you the opportunity to change how you voted. So I'm thinking most of the problems are voter error.

Is it worth this much $$? Probably, since it would appear that we're going to continually have questionable results that also cost taxpayers big bucks. Imagine what all the recounts, testing systems, overtime, consultants and court costs have been. And, since Florida has been the laughed at for over 6 years now...maybe it's time to do something that will allow us to again have some political respect.
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