[Lulu101]

if you can't find a buyer, just get hire a property manager to take care of it & find tenants for a year or two, then sell

Originally Posted by TANaples

One for the condo and one for the house. We can afford both, but both are a drain and we could be saving a lot of money with only one. Anyway, I really want to get rid of the condo sooner rather than later for when we move in 5 years. Don't want to have to get rid of two places at the same time.

[Unknown Memory]

Originally Posted by TANaples

Although I do enjoy those kinds of things. I liked the Haunted Mansion in Disney. Do they still have that?

Yep. They still have Haunted Mansion. It's a staple so it won't be leaving any time soon (or the 999 unhappy haunts will have to find the Disney park president or go flood the fountain in the Dolphin resort hotel in despair...)

Florida is nice to visit but it's definitely not a place for me. I'm pretty content living here in the north east.

[jenng104]

I just want to agree with some others. For those of us who have moved here from COMPLETELY different climates, lifestyles, and surroundings...this is like a whole new world. Depending on your situation, you either embrace this whole new world and make it your own, or you just cannot seem to "fit in " or enjoy it. That would be me. I feel that there is a completely different mindset, way of life and living, that may or may not have a lot to do with the climate, diversity, traditions, etc...I don't know. But coming from the northeast ( New Jersey) to Florida, there is a definate LACK of tradition and culture. I moved here at 32 years old and will leave at 38 years old without one bit of sadness. I do have some nice memories and people that I have met, but visiting here or even thinking about here will be the last thing on my mind for a long, long time. I have family here, and I have already told them NOT to expect me to visit for a long while...please come visit me! I have had enough of Florida and I am so ready to GO HOME in 8 months.

[Citrine]

Originally Posted by jenng104

I just want to agree with some others. For those of us who have moved here from COMPLETELY different climates, lifestyles, and surroundings...this is like a whole new world. Depending on your situation, you either embrace this whole new world and make it your own, or you just cannot seem to "fit in " or enjoy it. That would be me. I feel that there is a completely different mindset, way of life and living, that may or may not have a lot to do with the climate, diversity, traditions, etc...I don't know. But coming from the northeast ( New Jersey) to Florida, there is a definate LACK of tradition and culture. I moved here at 32 years old and will leave at 38 years old without one bit of sadness. I do have some nice memories and people that I have met, but visiting here or even thinking about here will be the last thing on my mind for a long, long time. I have family here, and I have already told them NOT to expect me to visit for a long while...please come visit me! I have had enough of Florida and I am so ready to GO HOME in 8 months.

Yes, you hit the nail on the head. Lots of people have a problem with the weather here, as do I, but there's so much more about Florida that has kept and still keeps me from embracing it.

[Tungsten_Udder]

Originally Posted by jenng104

there is a definate LACK of tradition and culture.

I don't believe that there can be a place with a lack of culture, but just out of curiosity, jenng104, how do you define that word so that some places might not have it?

[TANaples]

Originally Posted by Citrine

Yes, you hit the nail on the head. Lots of people have a problem with the weather here, as do I, but there's so much more about Florida that has kept and still keeps me from embracing it.

I am and have always been a history buff. I spent over 30 years doing genealogy. It is all connected.

I grew up in Manhattan. I walked the same streets that Washington, Hamilton, etc., etc, walked. I could go to a church where all these people worshiped. I could go to a tavern where they made history. The apartment where I grew up was built in the late 1800's. It still had the tin ceilings, marble fireplaces, brass doorknobs, etc. As a child I used to wonder, who were the people who originally lived there back then? What were their lives like in those days? What sense of history can you get in Florida? What is even still standing from those days?

Even on LI there was still a sense of history. The town where I lived was founded in the 1650s. The buildings of the founder were still standing. The town library was even part of the the original homestead. I loved investigating these buildings, and so much of NYC, to give me a sense of the past. Someone on another thread mentioned Universal Bloody Mary Halloween Night. Well, how about Salem Village, where REAL history was made?

To get back to the weather. There are different activities associated with the 4 season. It isn't JUST the temperature. With Fall you have the apple/pumpkin picking, playing/raking the leaves, hayrides, candy apples, puting on the fireplace for the first chill, getting out the fall/winter bedding/wardrobe. In winter, you have the decorating for the holiday season, the sledding, skiing, ice skating, cooking, baking, etc. Spring you have the picnics, planting, etc. There are just so many different activites you can do with each coming season. What is there here? Beach, beach, and more beach. For so many of us, even if we happen to like that, it gets boring, boring, boring, very quickly.

Culture? Well, again with my genealogy I had to learn so much about the history of this country and the waves of immigration; the Irish coming here to NY and Boston in the mid 1850s, the Germans who following them during the Prussian times in the 1860s, the Italians who came in the late 1880s and they landed at Ellis Island. Each group of immigrants brought their own culture to this country. I found it fascinating to go to the places where they, and my family and my husband's, came upon embarking in NY. They have their own ethnic neighborhoods in NYC and Boston, many of which still exist today. Hell, I could go on and on and on with the history and culture of it all.

Where does Florida fit into all of this? Florida is an INFANT in comparison.

[TKramar]

And the oldest city is in Florida...but it has no "history".

Air conditioning was pretty much invented in our state. And if you ask some Florida historians, Florida has plenty of history, some of which was written about. One of our major writers was Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings, who wrote about her life in backwoods Florida.

It might not have had a lot of major cities, but it had plenty of history.

[TANaples]

Originally Posted by TKramar

And the oldest city is in Florida...but it has no "history".

Air conditioning was pretty much invented in our state. And if you ask some Florida historians, Florida has plenty of history, some of which was written about. One of our major writers was Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings, who wrote about her life in backwoods Florida.

It might not have had a lot of major cities, but it had plenty of history.

without mentioning the Spanish conqueors and trappers.

Face the facts. Florida is a one trick pony, be it, weather, culture, or history.

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by TANaples

without mentioning the Spanish conqueors and trappers.

Face the facts. Florida is a one trick pony, be it, weather, culture, or history.

Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, Henry Plant and Henry Flagler might all disagree with you.

[Margel]

I know this is a thread about those unhappy with Florida, but I have to chime in here. I am not a native Floridian and I come from Philadelphia which is rich with history and tradition. However, when you are not happy in the place you live, you will be willing to leave that behind. It will send you off with some great memories, but it will not be enough to hold you there. People are all different, thank God, and we cannot all be in love with Florida for a variety of reasons. But to say that one of our states is lacking history is a slap in the face to all the native Floridians who have made this place home and who have their own cultures and traditions. I don't see Florida in the same light as some others do, and I am happy to call this place home. Sorry, I know I don't belong on this thread, but I couldn't help myself.