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Old 03-05-2007, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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It's nice to see the last posts are from people who actually understand south Florida. I deal with poor quality competition and cheap rich customers used to third world pricing. The secret is to control illegal immigration, but no one has the guts to do it. South Florida has been lost, but this problem will be comming to you soon.
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:53 PM
 
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It's nice to see the last posts are from people who actually understand south Florida. I deal with poor quality competition and cheap rich customers used to third world pricing. The secret is to control illegal immigration, but no one has the guts to do it. South Florida has been lost, but this problem will be comming to you soon.
Tallrick, I'd REALLY like to buy you a beer sometime....we think the same!
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:55 PM
 
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(on the "Where Are All The Floridians Moving To" thread much discussion was targetted on how BAD Florida is - the thread was a long one so I wanted to give my solutions in a new thread)

Well, it’s pretty much decided then: “WE’RE ALL MOVING TO TENNESSEE”…..got that?……bus leaves this weekend. Bring warmer clothing since it’s chillier than Florida.


I wonder if many who say how bad FL is know how much of their PERSONAL LIVES they’re blaming on a state. ?…..When I first started reading those posts, I thought there were a few sensible arguments. Then, it seems to have deteriorated into NOTHING is any good about FL.

For instance:

One person went on 32 interviews – no job. Whose fault? : Florida (not her or the economy, or the employer – it’s ‘cause of Florida)

Person’s real estate taxes doubled. Fault: Florida (not the local school taxing districts, not the local county service needs.)

Person has 3 degrees, 7 years experience, and can only make $39,000 a year for 9 months work as teacher. Who’s to blame? FLORIDA. They need to pay teachers WAY MORE, right? (but don’t tell the person above whose real estate taxes just doubled, they might have a problem with that)

Houses cost tooooooo much – well, everybody can agree on that, right?
Florida let GREEEDY developers and REALLY, REALLY GREEDY ‘Flippers’ (and dolphins) destroy the market. Florida should have STOPPED all them right in their tracks. They should have all been shut down – thrown out of business.!!!!!! (maybe even executed some, to make an example)

In fact, come to think of it, NO INVESTORS should be able to buy in Florida anymore. Period. If you are not going to live in the house at least 5 years, forget it. No more sleazy rental houses, just happy families in little middle class 3/2’s. If this should have any affect on the rental market, that will be dealt with by more laws.

AND, some argued we need to roll-back real estate prices to the year 2001, that will be the way to solve this price problem. My poor quality Florida education suggests if prices fall that far there will be massive foreclosures/bankruptcies and widespread financial ruin, BUT ma and pa middle class (who didn’t buy back then) will be able to buy a 3/2/2 for $100,000 In effect, one group of ‘displaced’ persons trades place with another displaced group – that’s the Florida way!

RUDE PEOPLE: again, this is Florida’s problem. The question is why were these people let in in the first place?….As of January 1, a “Friendly” test will be administered at the STATE LINE by FSHP to test for courtesy.
People from states like Oklahoma, and South Dakota will be grandfathered in. People from New York/New Jersey will be given up to three tries.

HEAT: this is totally Florida’s fault – no question about it. It’s awful hot and humid and its worst in the summer, just when it shouldn’t be. The state should have fixed this years ago before it got so out of hand. One poster said they were glad they moved to Georgia, ‘cause its not humid there.
Has anybody alerted the national weather service to this new ‘fact’?


NOTE: people who have suffered from the heat all these years, whose kids could not play outdoors, who sweat easily, who dislike heat intensely, but were settled here WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING IT, will be eligible for “heat rebates” going back 10 years.

LANGUAGE: People should be required BY LAW to speak ENGLISH rather than Spanish. BUT, not just regular English, instead SOUTHERN-STYLE ENGLISH: ….”Y’all and Ah’m and M’amm and Shazammm, and
howdy and grits and git and t-shirt and trailer park, and Marlboro and mullet and pick-up, ……and chicken-fried…..and…..well that should be enough words anyway.

Homeowners insurance is THRU THE ROOF…..which was probably caused by large objects hurling thru the roofs the last few seasons. Florida is the culprit AGAIN. The state should REQUIRE insurance companies to charge what they charged 5 years ago and not be able to raise it for 5 more years.
If this should cause insurers to abandon the state completely, citizens will be legally empowered to go after the insurance executives with shovels.


WAGES: Everybody with half a brain knows that pay in Florida is pathetic.
This is the fault of who else?: The state of Florida. The Governor should immediately issue an executive order requiring that all jobs that actually require you to do something, pay a minimum of $50,000 a year. If you went to school, even just pre-school or college, your pay would be commensurately higher. AND if you send in a coupon, this can be made RETRO_ACTIVE ….(problem solved.)

Some one asks “where would the money come from to pay all these higher salaries?…..simple. The Florida Legislature will authorize the Governor to TAX THE RESIDENTS OF TENNESSEE, since that is apparently where all the money will be going. 

Hopefully these ideas will help.

Bruce
Florida as a whole really 'aint the whole problem here...it's South Florida that is dragging the rest of the state down. Florida is great...South Florida isn't....Miami Dade county is La Republica Miami Dade.

So you either carry on as normal and put up with this crap, or you do something about it. The choice is yours....status quo, or take action....choice is yours. Personally, I can't see why you'd want a third world county like Miami Dade dragging the whole state down like this.
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:31 AM
 
Location: FL
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There are very real problems with the state of Florida. But the people that complain about the heat should just be taken out back and beaten. These are the same people that move next to an airport and then complain about the noise. It's Florida people - it's going to be hot. That's why most people moved here in the 1st place.
THANK YOU!!!

And by the way - funny post!
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Well, it’s pretty much decided then: “WE’RE ALL MOVING TO TENNESSEE”…..got that?……bus leaves this weekend. Bring warmer clothing since it’s chillier than Florida.


For instance:

One person went on 32 interviews – no job. Whose fault? : Florida (not her or the economy, or the employer – it’s ‘cause of Florida)

If it makes you feel any better the transplants from Florida to Tennessee blame it on a perceived Tennessee's Good Ole Boy network. "My wife and I have degrees up the wazoo and 20 different jobs from highly respected firms on our resume from NY and Florida and yet (sputter, sputter) they overlook our highly desirable resume to hire (insert indignance here) some local yokel who has lived all of his life in the community over us. What's the matter with you ignorant people! We're 30 year old professionals and intellectuals and we're better than you, dagnabit!" (Okay, I confess. I added that last sentence for effect but I was going for rude and the job thing in the same example... )
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Vero Beach, Fl
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Well said Bruserby - I hope all got the heavy tongue in check - you hit the nail on the head.
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Naples
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People complain about alot of petty stuff on this forum, but Florida does have some serious problems. South Florida (on both coasts) is not a good place to raise a family.
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Old 03-06-2007, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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The odd thing is how many people leave Florida. Go in a room full of people in their 30's and up and ask how many were born in Florida....In Miami maybe one out of 20 will raise their hand. Doesn't anyone wonder what happens to all the people born here?
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Old 03-06-2007, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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Tallrick, I'd REALLY like to buy you a beer sometime....we think the same!
Were you also born in Florida? Any smart sensible person living more than 10 years in this place will figure it out for sure. No wonder we think the same.
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Old 03-06-2007, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Philly to Odessa
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Ok so if we can't trust the politicians, how do we cure the immigration problem? I agree with what you are saying, but what is the solution? You all know that politicians come and go, promising this or that, but what actually gets done? Maybe some little things here or there, but nothing ever major gets fixed. Take a look at health care or education for example. They are always on the politicial agenda, but are they ever made better?
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