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01-15-2009, 11:34 AM
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Turning The Fla.Turnpike into an Interstate
I've always wondered why the fla.tpk was never given an interstate highway number,and possibly extending it over to tallahassee and beyond.The number i would give it is I-67 and it would connect the current fla tpk system to montgomery,tuscaloosa,and ending at the new I-22 (current u.s.78)at Jasper,alabama.I-67 would begin where the current turnpike begins at u.s.1 in homestead,a new roadway would be built west of I-75 at wildwood.West of I-75 the new I-67/tpk would go thru perry and then would turn north at where u.s.19 and 27 split at capps.67 would cross I-10 near monticello and then cross into georgia.Once in georgia I-67 would make a westerly turn at thomasville and would follow u.s.84 to Dothan,al.Once in dothan 67 would follow u.s.231 to montgomery,from there it would travel north-westerly along u.s.82 to tuscaloosa and finally terminating west of Jasper at future I-22
(current u.s.78).The only spur route of I-67 would be near tallahassee, and connecting with I-67 at Capps(current u.s.19 /27intersection.Iwould call that spur route I-967 it would end some where on the eastside of tallahassee.The other spur route might be from perry to tampa and i'd call it I-567, a toll road already exists from tampa up to u.s.98 near brooksville.The indiana,ohio,illinois,pennsylvania,and new york toll roads have interstate route numbers.This is just an idea to make travel a little easier from miami to memphis.
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01-15-2009, 07:05 PM
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It couldn't be I-67 according to the current numbering system since it is east of I-75. It would have to be an odd number between 75 and 95, and I think all of those are already taken. Or it could be an odd number followed by 75 since you could say it spurs off 75 into Miami which would make the most sense. 175, 375, 575, 775, or 975, not sure which of those are taken already.
Staying on this topic, what they really should do once I-22 is completed is make a spur off I-65 from Montgomery to Tallahassee, and also extend I-185 from Columbus down to Tallahassee. That would give Tallahassee direct access to Atlanta and Birmingham. Both of which it really needs (especially ATL).
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01-15-2009, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FSUMike
It couldn't be I-67 according to the current numbering system since it is east of I-75. It would have to be an odd number between 75 and 95, and I think all of those are already taken. Or it could be an odd number followed by 75 since you could say it spurs off 75 into Miami which would make the most sense. 175, 375, 575, 775, or 975, not sure which of those are taken already.
Staying on this topic, what they really should do once I-22 is completed is make a spur off I-65 from Montgomery to Tallahassee, and also extend I-185 from Columbus down to Tallahassee. That would give Tallahassee direct access to Atlanta and Birmingham. Both of which it really needs (especially ATL).
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I-67 would begin in alabama or end in that matter,but it would be a strange angled interstate just like I-69(Port Huron,Mi to Brownsville,tx)when complete.The other way I had it routed was going under the southside of tallahassee and crossing I-10 west of u.s.27 and going thru bainbridge,ga and then into dothan.I-185 would run into I-67 around bainbridge.Dothan would have a spur route to panama city, but I would call it I-510 or I-310,I-10 does go thru alabama but much further west.The other spur routes for my fictional highway is I-567 from perry to tampa and I-967 from capps to thomasville,or capps to tallahassee depending the routing.I-67 is a western extension of the fla.tpk,but with an interstate number.Alabama has been talking about turning u.s.231 into an interstate from montgomery to the florida line.I always thought the fla tpk had potential for being something great, but with no tolls west of I-75.
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01-15-2009, 11:54 PM
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its not going to be turned into an 'interstate' because it is a pay-for-use highway.
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Originally Posted by FSUMike
Staying on this topic, what they really should do once I-22 is completed is make a spur off I-65 from Montgomery to Tallahassee, and also extend I-185 from Columbus down to Tallahassee. That would give Tallahassee direct access to Atlanta and Birmingham. Both of which it really needs (especially ATL).
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us-319 to I-75 in tifton, ga; its a 4-lane highway all the way.
its a 4.5/hr drive to atl this route. i'm not sure building an interstate from columbus to tallahassee is going to be of that much benefit for the purpose of going to atlanta.
it would be beneficial for the purpose of going from tallahassee to columbus.
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Once in georgia I-67 would make a westerly turn at thomasville and would follow u.s.84 to Dothan,al
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that's pointless. that would be paralleling i-10 about 25 miles to the north, which is exactly what us-84 does from quitman, ga to dothan, al, nearly 120 miles.
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Originally Posted by quicksand66
The indiana,ohio,illinois,pennsylvania,and new york toll roads have interstate route numbers.This is just an idea to make travel a little easier from miami to memphis.
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i think giving them interstate numbers is a bad idea because it could mislead people into believing its a free trip all the way; imagine the surprise when you get there and find you have to pay to continue your route.
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01-16-2009, 05:30 AM
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i think giving them interstate numbers is a bad idea because it could mislead people into believing its a free trip all the way; imagine the surprise when you get there and find you have to pay to continue your route.
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Your rationale has merit but there are other instances of that occurring. ie... The West Virginia turnpike is known as I-77. Traveling the length of the turnpike you pass through 3 toll booth stations.
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01-16-2009, 08:13 AM
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Your rationale has merit but there are other instances of that occurring. ie... The West Virginia turnpike is known as I-77. Traveling the length of the turnpike you pass through 3 toll booth stations.
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i wonder if its really just a way to trick people into driving on the toll road when they'd have otherwise bypassed it? i'm not saying its some elaborate scheme, but just some where along the way someone thought, "hey, lets give it an interstate number so maybe more people will travel it."
i just don't get the argument that it makes travel easier if its signed as an interstate. maybe i'm just overthinking this? 
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01-16-2009, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by southgeorgia
i wonder if its really just a way to trick people into driving on the toll road when they'd have otherwise bypassed it? i'm not saying its some elaborate scheme, but just some where along the way someone thought, "hey, lets give it an interstate number so maybe more people will travel it."
i just don't get the argument that it makes travel easier if its signed as an interstate. maybe i'm just overthinking this? 
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The I-67 idea was to help ease traffic off I-75 between wildwood and lake city(I-10).I don't if you've driven I-75 between lake city and wildwood but it's a congested nightmare at times,plus this would give perry a piece of the pie.Perry is a major cross roads for u.s.19/27/98/221,why not give the new corridor.The only part of it that i'm still unclear on is whether to run it under tallahassee,join it with I-10 to the west end of tallahassee and run north to bainbridge,or cut it up thru thomasville then west.I would still give a spur route to thomasville along present u.s.19.
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01-17-2009, 04:52 PM
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The question of the day is,will I-67 still be tolled any where west of I-75?I hate driving the I-75 corridor anywhere from ohio to florida,it's always very crowded and always seems to be accident prone.I never did understand why florida never designated the turnpike as an interstate route,but it would help me run from alabama to plant city alot easier.
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05-07-2009, 05:36 PM
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Why not build northwest from Wildwood to Montgomery and call the highway to South Florida I-65 and call the orphaned section from Montgomery to Mobile I-85? Both extensions are logical and Michigan would use the I-67 number anyway.
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05-07-2009, 05:47 PM
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Actually, I think the FL Turnpike is an unsigned state highway. S.R. 300 I think.
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