[Mike Peterson]

Originally Posted by dmccauley

And again how is 19 counties out of 67 considered "most of florida"

Again, for the 3rd time I restated this, "So I should have said that the Jersey sales tax rate was equal to or higher than most of Florida. No where near the faulty info served up by others."

We can debate this until we are blue in the face. The bottom line is that we are all entitiled to our own opinions but your maniuplation of peoples words to prove a point is just annoying!

I don't manipulate anyones words, if someone says the humidity in Florida is 98% then that is what they said not what I manipulated it to be. 98% would be the highest humidity in the country if it were true but it was not true.

Now here is how I respond to someone in the thread that just states their reason for leaving without embellishing.

"Traffic and the attitude of people is a good reason to not like a place.
Fortunately we don't have bad traffic where I am and the majority of people are very nice.
You have to go where you are going to be happy and for many that place is not Florida.

But I am sure you have read through some of the other rants on here from people who seem to think since they are not happy in Florida that there is no way anyone could be happy here. Those are the posts I have a hard time comprehending.
Your post makes perfect sense though..

Good luck with your move."



10 STATES WITH THE
HIGHEST TAXES ON THE POOR
Washington17.6%
Florida14.4
Michigan13.3
Illinois13.1
Hawaii12.6
Arizona12.5
New Jersey12.4
New York12.4
Indiana12.2
New Mexico12.1

I for one feel that the tax burden should be shared by all, just because someone does not make as much as me that doesn't mean I should pay a higher tax rate. A consumption tax helps level that out. What you consume is what you pay taxes on. Florida happens to be at the low end on the tax burden per capita at #37 which to me is a truer representation of how much we are being taxed.

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[Mike Peterson]

Originally Posted by dmccauley

Hmmm do you think this could possibly be because

New Jersey is one of the wealthiest states in the United States of America, with a per capita income of $27,006 (2000) and a personal per capita income of $40,427 (2003). Its median household income is $55,146 (2000), ranked first in the country, and its median family income is $65,370 (2000), the second highest in the country. The median value of an owner-occupied housing unit is $170,800 (2000), ranked fourth in the country. New Jersey has the highest percentage of millionaire residents in the country with 7.12% of New Jersey households having $1 million or more liquid or investible assets, not including equity in homes

It could have alot to do with having one of the highest property tax RATES and income tax RATES in the nation.

If someone is making $65,000 in one state compared to someone making $45,000 in another state but paying an extra $9000 in taxes then how much more are they actually making, especially if they are paying a few thousand more for housing.

Florida is at 5.31% of the households being millionaires, that is over 338,000 households.

[bdpop]

Originally Posted by dmccauley

Hmmm do you think this could possibly be because

New Jersey is one of the wealthiest states in the United States of America, with a per capita income of $27,006 (2000) and a personal per capita income of $40,427 (2003). Its median household income is $55,146 (2000), ranked first in the country, and its median family income is $65,370 (2000), the second highest in the country. The median value of an owner-occupied housing unit is $170,800 (2000), ranked fourth in the country. New Jersey has the highest percentage of millionaire residents in the country with 7.12% of New Jersey households having $1 million or more liquid or investible assets, not including equity in homes

This information is almost 10 years old. Just try to find a house in NJ for $170,800. This is why we originally moved to Florida in 2004. The place we were renting was being sold and we could not afford any of the houses there at the time. This was at the height of the housing boom up there.

[dmccauley]

"So I should have said that the Jersey sales tax rate was equal to or higher than most of Florida. No where near the faulty info served up by others."

What you should have said is NJ sales tax is equivalent to the majority of Floridas 67 counties with the exception of 19 counties being lower and 5 counties that are higher.

if someone says the humidity in Florida is 98% then that is what they said.
So why do you feel the need to compare it to other countries when you know as well as I do this was just an exaggeration and it feels like 98%

Just like you we get tired of the "Floridians" rants as well.

[Mike Peterson]

Originally Posted by dmccauley

"So I should have said that the Jersey sales tax rate was equal to or higher than most of Florida. No where near the faulty info served up by others."

What you should have said is NJ sales tax is equivalent to the majority of Floridas 67 counties with the exception of 19 counties being lower and 5 counties that are higher.

if someone says the humidity in Florida is 98% then that is what they said.
So why do you feel the need to compare it to other countries when you know as well as I do this was just an exaggeration and it feels like 98%

Just like you we get tired of the "Floridians" rants as well.

There was nothing wrong in the way I restated it.

I believe I compared the humidity to other places in the U.S. not other countries. Someone saying the humidity is 98% was beyond ridiculous since as I showed the highest ranking on the list was Jax at 59 which means 58 other areas in the country have a higher humidity.

I have also never felt like the humidity was 98% unless it was raining.

I also think there is a big difference between posting obviously exagerated untruths and posting information showing the other posts to be fraudulent.
It was no where near a rant.

[dmccauley]

Originally Posted by Mike Peterson

There was nothing wrong in the way I restated it.

I believe I compared the humidity to other places in the U.S. not other countries. Someone saying the humidity is 98% was beyond ridiculous since as I showed the highest ranking on the list was Jax at 59 which means 58 other areas in the country have a higher humidity.

I have also never felt like the humidity was 98% unless it was raining.

I also think there is a big difference between posting obviously exagerated untruths and posting information showing the other posts to be fraudulent.
It was no where near a rant.

Thank you for proving my point

[Mike Peterson]

Originally Posted by dmccauley

Thank you for proving my point

I am interested in how you came to this conclusion because I don't see it.

[Mrs. P]

Originally Posted by Pooring Footers

Mrs. P, a big reason why you are leaving NC/SC is b/c of rude people, then FL is not the place for you. You have to have thick skin if you want to live in FL. Especially if you think NC/SC folks are rude. Not all of FL is like this of course, but a large portion of it is. But you know that hillbillies and southern culture are also in FL too, and so atleast you know what areas can provide a "midwestern feel with nice, friendly people" and what areas are similar to NC/SC. With that being said, I'd stay away from Northern FL and parts of Central FL. If you think people are rude in NC/SC, I definitely urge you to stay away from Tampa, Naples and almost all of SW FL, Orlando and Southeast FL for sure... so you are definitely limited.

Thank you for your recommendations. I have a couple of friends down there already and they've tried to steer me towards the more midwestern type feeling towns. I have to say the one that is the happiest down there lives in Bonita Springs. My relatives live on the other coast (been there since 1962) like where they are as well. I did know to stay away from Northern parts, and don't want to live in the Central part of Florida anyway. I am also looking for a small town, not teeny time, but no big time city like Tampa.
Actually my favorite place was Clearwater St Petersburg area, but I haven't been there for a few years. Do you think I'd like those 2 areas?

[grannynancy]

We moved to Florida in 1967 and I left in 1973 the year I graduated from high school. Never wanted to move back. I am just on the FL forum because I am dealing with my parents stuff in Florida now.

[dmccauley]

Originally Posted by Mike Peterson

I am interested in how you came to this conclusion because I don't see it.

Because the person that made the post about the humidity was being sarcastic. But you had to take it to another level and of course defend Florida with statistics.

"I have also never felt like the humidity was 98% unless it was raining." exactly my point its what YOU FELT. So should I go google something to tell YOU that your wrong. Its not always 98% humidity when it rains.

Lighten up