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Old 05-08-2009, 08:49 AM
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Just curious.... Why would you suggest heavy taxation on a medication? Do you also want to tax the crap out of antibiotics? Other pain relievers? It sounds like you have it in for the ill.
Yes, that's correct. I have it in for the ill.

I'm talking taxing it when used recreationally. Not for medicinal purposes.
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Old 05-10-2009, 07:36 PM
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If it gets on the ballot I'll vote for it.

what do you all think about this??




Orlando mom works to get medical marijuana issue on ballot | floridatoday.com | FLORIDA TODAY
The comments attached to the bottom of the article are simple and thoughtless. It is a simple issue though. Below is a quote by a great and brilliant man. A great American:

The Child who's shot in a slum in a pass-by-shooting, in a random shooting, is an innocent victim in every respect of the term. The person who decides to take drugs for himself is not an innocent victim. He has chosen himself to be a victim. And I must say I have very much less sympathy for him. I do not think it is moral to impose such heavy costs on other people to protect people from their own choices.
Paige: For us to understand the real root of those beliefs, how about if we just talk a minute about free market economic perspective, and how you see the proper role of government in its dealings with the individual.
Friedman: The proper role of government is exactly what John Stuart Mill Said in the middle of the 19th century in "On Liberty." The proper role of government is to prevent other people from harming an individual. Govern- ment, he said, never has any right to interfere with an individual for that individual's own good.
The case for prohibiting drugs is exactly as strong and as weak as the case for prohibiting people from overeating. We all know that overeating causes more deaths than drugs do. If it's in principle OK for the government to say you must not consume drugs because they'll do you harm, why isn't it all right to say you must not eat too much because you'll do harm? Why isn't it all right to say you must not try to go in for skydiving because you're likely to die? Why isn't it all right to say, "Oh, skiing, that's no good, that's a very dangerous sport, you'll hurt yourself"? Where do you draw the line?
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Old 05-10-2009, 07:45 PM
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Yes, that's correct. I have it in for the ill.

I'm talking taxing it when used recreationally. Not for medicinal purposes.
The tax question is irrelevant and only acts as a red herring. Don't forget that. Money is tight enough. Why would anyone pay for medication that they could produce nearly without cost by themself? Millions of Americans should be allowed to produce their own marijuana immediately. There's nothing wrong at all with planting a seed and caring for a plant. It is not American to stand against this issue.
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:06 AM
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Did President Lincoln really make this statement I've seen quoted so much?

"Prohibition... goes beyond the bound of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded"
-Abraham Lincoln
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:43 AM
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Did President Lincoln really make this statement I've seen quoted so much?

"Prohibition... goes beyond the bound of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded"
-Abraham Lincoln

Even if he did, what he said and what he did were two completely different things. All one has to do to verify that is read the lincoln-douglas debates.
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Old 05-15-2009, 04:31 AM
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The fact that we spend tax dollars imprisoning people for cultivating and or consuming a plant is one of the most laughable and embarrassing things about our democracy.

But that actually requires a little research, and most people are busy and just not up for it, or they've been so brainwashed that they are beyond rationality. To deny sick people any medicine that might help them, however, is a new level of low bordering on sadistic. How anybody could vote against medical marijuana is beyond me. It's a no brainer.
Can't really put it any better than this. The only people who are against legalizing marijuana are the ones who profit from it being illegal. You can bet your butt that the Mexican drug cartels are pretty seriously anti-legalization.
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:07 AM
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This is going to take more than just "I'd vote for it"

There are more than ample amount of supporters out there.. We need your help making this viral and subliminal or it will never make it on the ballot!! Make sure you take to all you friends and everything about the effort and make sure everyone goes to PUFMM.com and downloads and signs the petition!!
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Old 06-14-2009, 11:53 PM
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How is it safer than a cig? I guess because someone who smokes, could smoke a pack a day, but the average marijuana smoker doesnt smoke anywhere near the amount.
And because marijuana smoke causes your lung to dilate as opposed to constrict like tobacco. This causes your lungs to be in better shape, look at the Compassionate IND studies, the patient who has been in the longest has shown 108% lung capacity growth after smoking 13 joints a day for decades (paid for with our tax dollars btw).
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Old 11-09-2009, 01:28 PM
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I find it laughable how everyone harps on marijuana that has been around for decades and no one STILL can't figure out why it's bad, while anti-depressant drug commercials are shown everyday rattling off all of their side-effects with not a peep from anyone.
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