[SiestaBay]

Originally Posted by FSUMike

You are ridiculously ignorant.

Really? Is that because we should treat everyone equal and not judge them based on their opinions, nor should we stereotype, just like you?

Okay, sounds good, my bad.

Oh...

Wait...

Looks like you do, too. Nevermind then:

don't let the door hit you on the way out d@m yank.

No offense to anyone, but if Palm Coast is paradise, then the North must REALLY suck. I've lived in Ormond Beach (15 mins south of Palm Coast) my whole life and I don't understand the draw to PC. Someone please enlighten me. If you like living in a place that looks like a million identical houses and streets just fell out of the sky and plopped down randomly in the swamp, then more power to you, but I just don't get it. I guess anything is better than yankeeland though...

Don't go to Daytona for a honeymoon unless you are willing to spend some money. Daytona is a trashy, redneck, honkytonk party town

To the OP, if you don't like Yankees and don't like hearing about how "everything is better up nawth", DO NOT move to Palm Coast. They might as well call it New Jersey/York South

[FSUMike]

Siesta Bay, How did I stereotype? Who even knows the context of those posts? I lived my whole life up until 6 months ago in Ormond Beach, which is right between Daytona Beach and Palm Coast. I know the area well, and I know what the New Yorkers who move there en masse are like. I have many friends who are from up north, and I don't hold that against anyone. A decent person is a decent person, and there are decent people from the north.

I don't really understand your point. We can't judge someone based on their opinions? We have to treat everyone equal? If you express your opinion to me, whether I agree with it or disagree, I will make a judgment about you. There's nothing wrong with that. I don't treat everyone equal. That's a ridiculous idea. I treat my wife much differently than I treat the guys I work with. I treat my daughter differently from my mother. I treat an a-hole alot differently than I would treat someone who is respectful and nice.

So I say again, you are very ignorant.

[SiestaBay]

Originally Posted by FSUMike

Siesta Bay, How did I stereotype? Who even knows the context of those posts? I lived my whole life up until 6 months ago in Ormond Beach, which is right between Daytona Beach and Palm Coast. I know the area well, and I know what the New Yorkers who move there en masse are like. I have many friends who are from up north, and I don't hold that against anyone. A decent person is a decent person, and there are decent people from the north.

I don't really understand your point. We can't judge someone based on their opinions? We have to treat everyone equal? If you express your opinion to me, whether I agree with it or disagree, I will make a judgment about you. There's nothing wrong with that. I don't treat everyone equal. That's a ridiculous idea. I treat my wife much differently than I treat the guys I work with. I treat my daughter differently from my mother. I treat an a-hole alot differently than I would treat someone who is respectful and nice.

So I say again, you are very ignorant.

Considering you don't even see the flaw in your logic, I find it hard to believe you know what ignorant is.

You said:

How did I stereotype?

Daytona is a trashy, redneck, honkytonk party town

So you think everyone in "Daytona is a trashy, redneck, honkytonk?"
Stereotype:
"A generalization, usually exaggerated or oversimplified and often offensive, that is used to describe or distinguish a group."

The quote wasn't taken out of context, that's what you said. You stereotyped. Any other questions?
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You said:

I lived my whole life up until 6 months ago in Ormond Beach, which is right between Daytona Beach and Palm Coast. I know the area well, and I know what the New Yorkers who move there en masse are like. I have many friends who are from up north, and I don't hold that against anyone. A decent person is a decent person, and there are decent people from the north.

We'll look aside the stereotyping here and cut straight to your flaw in logic. You say you know "what the New Yorkers who move there en masse are like" yet continue to say there are decent people from the north. Which is it? Are they decent people or are they not? How do you not know that it's a group of decent people from the north moving down? Or is it, if it's a big group they can't possibly be good.
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Please save your holier than thou attitude, it's really not becoming.

[FSUMike]

Okay, well as far as the first quote goes describing my hometown, the OP was asking about taking a honeymoon there and I was steering him in the right direction for what he was looking for. There is no stereotyping there. Just because Daytona happens to be a redneck party town that is mostly run down, that doesn't mean EVERYONE there is a redneck, and I don't think anyone would assume that. Los Angeles is a fast-paced, cutthroat town. Does that mean nobody there lives a slow, laid-back life or will stab you in the back to get ahead? Of course not. Don't you think you're being a little overdramatic and taking everything on an internet message board a little too seriously anyway?

Ok fine, let me rephrase my quote "I know what MANY of the New Yorkers who move there en masse are like". Is that better? Sorry I'm just not as politically correct as you are.

Holier than thou attitude? Please. I just don't like what many parts of my state have become, and I don't mind saying so.

[SiestaBay]

Originally Posted by FSUMike

Okay, well as far as the first quote goes describing my hometown, the OP was asking about taking a honeymoon there and I was steering him in the right direction for what he was looking for. There is no stereotyping there. Just because Daytona happens to be a redneck party town that is mostly run down, that doesn't mean EVERYONE there is a redneck, and I don't think anyone would assume that. Los Angeles is a fast-paced, cutthroat town. Does that mean nobody there lives a slow, laid-back life or will stab you in the back to get ahead? Of course not. Don't you think you're being a little overdramatic and taking everything on an internet message board a little too seriously anyway?

Ok fine, let me rephrase my quote "I know what MANY of the New Yorkers who move there en masse are like". Is that better? Sorry I'm just not as politically correct as you are.

Holier than thou attitude? Please. I just don't like what many parts of my state have become, and I don't mind saying so.

Forget about it. You don't get it and you obviously never will. Have a nice life.

[AAbsolute]

[quote=Chrome Microphone;8476828]

Originally Posted by AAbsolute

Say what now?

I'm talking about the shear ignorance of the prejudice. They'll hate a gay man with an end game in their logic that actually calls homosexuality a sin. As if they were born better, with a gift of God, than another human.

The rediculous bible folks then move onto talking point two: These folks are making a choice to be gay, they are sinners.

Show me one Southern Good Ole' Boy who wants to sleep with men, but doesn't because it's a sin.

[jsimms3]

More comments of racism and more group talk. My whole yankee family happens to love the south. My parents met in Miami and had me, and then had to get out, so they moved to an unheard of town called Jacksonville. Now more family has moved down with some others in Charleston, Atlanta, and Austin. We all love the south, we think it has a lot to offer. So many millions who are flocking here cannot possibly be wrong. I would love to keep the south red, too! Let's keep Rush here in sunny Palm Beach, FL, and I wish Hannity would relocate (and Fox) to Atlanta, where he hosted the Tea Party there. Let's keep Christianity as the predominant religion, and if people here want/need trucks, let's not hold it against them. I have seen trucks everywhere I have traveled in the U.S.

Let's keep sweet tea, let's keep that southern accent, and to answer Meredith Viera's hoity toity question of a contestant from TN, yes there is sushi in TN and yes there are groundhogs there, as well. TN is not a different country! This is one of the most biased threads I have read in a while. I am not about to try to stereotype S FL or N FL because each area has its own array of offerings. I happen to love Coral Gables/The Grove, but for me that is the limit in S FL. Do I wish N FL were more tropical? Yes, but it seems most who live in N FL appreciate a slight change in seasons. I could sit here and wish all day for a bunch of stuff for N FL, but imho, I could wish for more things for S FL.

Now let me take a turn to bring diversity to the table. I am a gay (dont believe in gay marriage), deeply religious "Bible thumping" conservative (conservative is diverse on this forum) male. I have yet to run into bigotry from anyone, including "southern" hicks, but maybe this is because instead of acting like an elitist/educated Ivy League but not really bimbo, I listen to them and respect their opinions. I am more comfortable with a bunch of southern "rednecks" than I am with a bunch of superficial, militant gay atheist liberal girl clothe wearing homos who go to the club every night, and keep saying we I wish I lived in Europe, but none of them ever move there.

I am also a part of the smallest minority on this planet, and I happen to be from N FL. I am my own minority, I am an individual, and I will never include myself as part of any group unless its title is American. See to me, with all of you guys saying how awful N FL is, I would instinctively think it must be the most wonderful place on earth. I cannot stand going with the grain or popular opinion. And btw Miss CA is my new favority role model, and she is a role model to anyone of faith, to anyone who feels as I do, where individual thought is no longer accepted, and to anyone who stands by their own principle no matter what the odds, because, as we are seeing, there are people criticizing her by stating that because of her brief stutter she must not believe her own answer. Well, she knew by Perez asking it, what the best answer would be to gain popular support and she still spoke her mind of opposite opinion.

Long rant, I am fully sorry, I just wanted to get that off my chest.

[jsimms3]

One more thing, the strongest good ol boy network in the country right now are our northern incumbent congressmen. Believe, every city has a political good ol boy network. In Atl, where I am right now, it is literally a good ol woman network, and it certainly is failing. When you refer to good ol boys here in the south, I think you are referring to close knit groups of friends who have lived together for a lifetime. Respect them, and I am sure you will have no problem making new friends, it is the same everywhere. If you don't think Main Line Philly or Fairfield COunty are good ol boy networks, you are deeply mistaken. Look at our president, as well, he comes from quite a political good ol boy machine in Chicago! So I think the difference here is more similar to the difference between what you would find in New York or Miami versus what you would find in Olean, NY or Perry, FL. Small town vs. big town, both are not limited geographically.

[Chrome Microphone]

Originally Posted by FSUMike

Okay, well as far as the first quote goes describing my hometown, the OP was asking about taking a honeymoon there and I was steering him in the right direction for what he was looking for. There is no stereotyping there. Just because Daytona happens to be a redneck party town that is mostly run down, that doesn't mean EVERYONE there is a redneck, and I don't think anyone would assume that. Los Angeles is a fast-paced, cutthroat town. Does that mean nobody there lives a slow, laid-back life or will stab you in the back to get ahead? Of course not. Don't you think you're being a little overdramatic and taking everything on an internet message board a little too seriously anyway?

Ok fine, let me rephrase my quote "I know what MANY of the New Yorkers who move there en masse are like". Is that better? Sorry I'm just not as politically correct as you are.

Holier than thou attitude? Please. I just don't like what many parts of my state have become, and I don't mind saying so.

I'm right there with you man. I have been saying this since I moved back to FL. I was like "what the hell?" This is what Central FL is like now??? WOW! I'm on the same page, places like S FL, Palm Coast, where many of the grouchy retirees from the NE live and complain, no thank you! Gimme the panhandle, gimme northern GA, gimme Greenville SC, but a place like Boca Raton or Palm Coast, why heck no!

[Barrister85]

Wow this topic as gotten completely derailed since the last time I looked at it.

Look, I didn't mean to be offensive. I'm just used to a different culture and I don't really know anything about the South. I wouldn't feel anymore comfortable in a rural Floridian county than one of their residents would feel in Philadelphia or Charlotte, and I'm not gonna suddenly change at 23.

I plan on living in a moderate-to-big city no matter where I go in Florida because that's where the colleges are.