[macguy]

Originally Posted by Nirvana-Guy

Wow, this is great. I appreciate the replies.

You know, I think it stinks for the HOA to do that, specially since the local real estate market SUCKS right now and people just cannot sell. THis poor family is not just stuck in that house, they are now also under legal siege from the oppressors (the HOA).

Yes, HOA is right to kick the kid out, but they should at least look at the present real estate situation and try to give the family a bit wiggle room until the house is sold.

A very hard situation, it is a lose-lose situation for everyone involved.

It's been going on for three years.

[Angelrocks]

Originally Posted by daniellefort

But how were they to know they would end up having to take care of this little girl before they bought the property? Maybe they have lived there before the child was even born. there's a lot more info needed to make any assumptions i think. Seems to me there are exceptions with everything else in life but i think each circumstance has to be made on a case by case decision.

But, you have to plan ahead. You have to take into account of the fact that perhaps you might need to be there for your family. My grandmother had to take care of me. My mother was just not capable of doing it. My Grandmother had a pretty good feeling something like that was going to happen. She was right. Actually, she helped in saving my life.

If you have children, you don't know who in the heck they are going to marry. My Grandmother knew this. She knew my step father was beating me up. She came to the apt. one day and took me out of there. I was beaten to the point of near death. She was smart enough to know that and took me in. That's why I say that the little girl should stay. I was raised for many years by my Grandmother.

But, if a person signs a 55+ contract they legally give away their rights to protect their grandchildren. Everybody that moves into these 55+ communities should know this. If you don't know this then I have to wonder how much thought you put into protecting your future family. It's up to you to protect your family. If I had children, regardless, if I moved into a 55+ development I realize I am signing away the rights to protect my future family. Every should know this. If you don't, this is a good lesson to learn.

Or, what if your daughter is in college and has an unexpected pregancy (which means she may have to move home for a while)? I mean doesn't anybody take this into consideration? Or, they are planning for their own future and don't really care what happens to their family?


I personally do not like the 55+ communities! YOU WILL LEGALLY SIGN AWAY YOUR RIGHTS TO PROTECT YOUR FUTURE FAMILY IF YOU MOVE INTO A 55+ community. This is a great lesson to learn. I am really against it, especially since I was raised by my Grandparents!

[Sunshine State]

Danielle, I totally sympathize with what you went thru, but theres 2 sides to some of what youre laying on us, when Im 55 plus if my kids bring me an unexpected pregnancy they can walk, anybody that moves in to a community at that age obviously doesnt anticipate raising their OWN kids all over again, much less their kids kids, lol...sheesh, how soft are we becoming???... unless its a matter of abuse, Id tell them to use their own brain to get a home the way Id raised them to think, Id help them sure, but to move in one me and stay for good is asking a little much doncha think???....and in an abuse case, Id get them a lawyer and fight the idiot who was hurting them so they could help themselves again

(sorry I was actually meaning this for you Angelrocks)

[macguy]

Originally Posted by Angelrocks

But, you have to plan ahead. You have to take into account of the fact that perhaps you might need to be there for your family. My grandmother had to take care of me. My mother was just not capable of doing it. My Grandmother had a pretty good feeling something like that was going to happen. She was right. Actually, she helped in saving my life.

If you have children, you don't know who in the heck they are going to marry. My Grandmother knew this. She knew my step father was beating me up. She came to the apt. one day and took me out of there. I was beaten to the point of near death. She was smart enough to know that and took me in. That's why I say that the little girl should stay. I was raised for many years by my Grandmother.

But, if a person signs a 55+ contract they legally give away their rights to protect their grandchildren. Everybody that moves into these 55+ communities should know this. If you don't know this then I have to wonder how much thought you put into protecting your future family. It's up to you to protect your family. If I had children, regardless, if I moved into a 55+ development I realize I am signing away the rights to protect my future family. Every should know this. If you don't, this is a good lesson to learn.

Or, what if your daughter is in college and has an unexpected pregancy (which means she may have to move home for a while)? I mean doesn't anybody take this into consideration? Or, they are planning for their own future and don't really care what happens to their family?


I personally do not like the 55+ communities! YOU WILL LEGALLY SIGN AWAY YOUR RIGHTS TO PROTECT YOUR FUTURE FAMILY IF YOU MOVE INTO A 55+ community. This is a great lesson to learn. I am really against it, especially since I was raised by my Grandparents!

You have it backwards. You haven't signed away any rights. You have been granted rights, a promise you can live in an environment of your choosing. Also the right should you decide to sell, the new buyer will be granted the same rights. Thus preserving the value of your choice of purchase as well as doing the same for every other owner in there. This is a no-brainer really.

[mystree]

Sad story,another reason I will never live in a place with a h.o.a.

[macguy]

Originally Posted by mystree66

Sad story,another reason I will never live in a place with a h.o.a.

They are brutal. I just sold a place in a gated community with the closing hopefully this week. I just this morning had to pay the HOA a $114.00 fee for them to confirm my dues are up to date for the new owner. Maybe this is customary, I don't know. Wouldn't you think my canceled check would do it? It just never stops, they have to get you for that last piece of flesh.

[Prichard]

The whole concept of "senior communities" is complete garbage. What would these same senior do if I started a community that excluded anyone over the age of 55. What would they do if I refused to hire them because they were "too old"? What would they do if I had a burger joint that refused to serve anyone over the age of 60?

Get the picture? One set of laws, for better or for worse. It's called "fairness".

[macguy]

Originally Posted by Prichard

The whole concept of "senior communities" is complete garbage. What would these same senior do if I started a community that excluded anyone over the age of 55. What would they do if I refused to hire them because they were "too old"? What would they do if I had a burger joint that refused to serve anyone over the age of 60?

Get the picture? One set of laws, for better or for worse. It's called "fairness".

I have not seen one, but I suspect they have some kind of charter making them a private community. They have rules and as long as they don't break state of federal laws can run their private community as they wish. No matter where you live you live under the same kinds of rules although different even if you don't know it.

I will guarantee where you live somewhere it is written how many people can occupy a single family house, whether you can park boats or RV's on your property, what the set backs have to be, how high a building you can build, how much drive way space you can have, I.E. you can't concrete your whole property and so on. What is wrong with them living the way they what? No one is forcing anyone to live there.

I would bet if you wanted you could start such a community with no one over 55. Ever see any of these places? My wife visited this place just outside of Tallahassee and loved it.
http://directory.ic.org/records/?act...&record_id=768

Some sound a little wacky

http://directory.ic.org/records/?act...ults&locations[state_prov]=Florida

[sunrico90]

Originally Posted by Prichard

The whole concept of "senior communities" is complete garbage. What would these same senior do if I started a community that excluded anyone over the age of 55. What would they do if I refused to hire them because they were "too old"? What would they do if I had a burger joint that refused to serve anyone over the age of 60?

Get the picture? One set of laws, for better or for worse. It's called "fairness".

Prichard,

You bring an excellent point. The greater issue under the skin is that individuals are the ones that create limiting factors that generate these by-laws and individuals go and purchase homes without realizing the consequences. If a person knows that a community has HOI and in this case limits the time a child can be in the community is the owners fault for not properly evaluating the consequences of their decision.

This will apply to any other mandate from the association. I would say that we must always consider and think about the future at the time that we sign a document or agreement. Many times we neglect to evaluate and situations that can drastically jeopardize our future.

If the associating allowed 3 years for the grandparents to take action on their situation and they did not achieve an executable plan, they placed themselves in a precarious condition that the court will not support.

[SKB]

I guess the Grandparents should have said said the little girl was just "visiting" every day. Knowing HOA's they probably have a rule on how many visits you can get from your Grandchildren per week,month, year etc.. They probably have to have them leave the driveway by 12:00 am or face getting a fine.


My heart goes out to the child and I hope she never finds out how unwanted she was in her neighborhood. It might do some of those old goats some good having laughter of a child around the place.

HOA rules in my opinion go overboard on to many issues .

I much prefer living how I wish to live and if I choose to have boats and trucks in my driveway and metal swing sets in my backyard that is my business. I might go crazy and want to hang a flag in front of my house