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Old 06-09-2009, 05:15 PM
 
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Parents.

It mostly comes down to the parents.

Parents need to be more involved and work with their children.

You do not know how many people have told us that Florida schools are bad for two reasons, low pay for teachers and parents not working with their kids.

Many of our friends in Florida have told us over and over again that for some reason parents in Florida do not even help or spend time with their kids with their school work or help at school at all.
It's because FL attracts a lot of undesirable people, and those people are way too often parents.
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Old 06-09-2009, 05:16 PM
 
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Unless it is something in the water, crossing a state line would have little to do with how good a parent one would be. How do you draw that parallel? You took one fact then made a leap to a conclusion based on nothing. What is the evidence people in Florida are bad parents? We would also have to assume that since most here are from somewhere else it happened after they arrived. I guess we can also assume that if they leave Florida for anywhere else they will magically become good parents. How do you people come up with this stuff?
See post above.
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Old 06-09-2009, 05:22 PM
 
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And the above post says it all. We have been here in two years and anytime you bring up facts like education or the poor state of medical care in FL, people take it as a personal insult.

Rather than address the issue.

The main problem is in FL is whole education system is based on getting scores on one test(FCAT) and not teaching.

And in regards to bad parents, we have lived all over the country( mainly in CA) and this is the only state where I have frequently seen young children left unattended in cars, many times with the engine running.

Some redneck type too ignorant to realize how dangerours that is.

I would have to say in regards to parents I have seen some disturbing things here, there is a "different breed" of people. A perfect example is the family of that little Haleigh Cummings, we never saw people like that in CA.
This isnt the only incident. How about the child abducted and killed in Sarasota by the car mechanic from Brooklyn NY? Or the little girl that almost got raped in her home a few weeks ago in the middle of the night by a man with previous convictions in NY?

To say you didnt see people like that in CA is ridiculous. How about that woman that sexually assaulted that little girl (that was around the same age as her own daughter) with a foreign object and then killed her?
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Old 06-09-2009, 05:29 PM
 
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Why should the county matter? You claimed "most parents in Florida."


Well i dunno maybe up north families are more tight and close than down here. But i also know lots of kids who only have single parent homes. Although if you are up north not many people there are in single parent homes but how many people are up north as to down south. The majority of Florida's populace are down south in the dade and broward counties, but what does it matter i dont know if you are offended by my claim although it may have been a little out of context maybe it would have been better had i said " Most kids i know live in single parent homes"... Several friends of mine dads have died due to medical reasons before they even graduated middle school, others never met their dad, and the rest are just divorced or their dad still lives in a foreign country or something. Who knows maybe i just happen to know a lot of people who have single parent homes or something but i did read somewhere that single parent homes are on the rise in the united states and divorce rates are going up.
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Old 06-09-2009, 06:20 PM
 
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In Gainesville my future children will either go to the 20th or 87th ranked HS in the nation. Overall the system is bad but there are still some great HS in FL.
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Old 06-09-2009, 06:39 PM
 
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In Gainesville my future children will either go to the 20th or 87th ranked HS in the nation. Overall the system is bad but there are still some great HS in FL.

The question should be, will your future children still graduate from the 20th or 87th ranked HS in the nation, or will they be one of the dropout statistics?

Education is so much more than some list someone has formulated. Kids are dropping out, and some A+ school ranking will not guarantee that your children's educational, social, emotional, and/or physical needs are automatically being met. Tests, money, and whimsical numbers are now driving the schools, not the quality education that our children deserve.
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Old 06-09-2009, 06:52 PM
 
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The question should be, will your future children still graduate from the 20th or 87th ranked HS in the nation, or will they be one of the dropout statistics?

Education is so much more than some list someone has formulated. Kids are dropping out, and some A+ school ranking will not guarantee that your children's educational, social, emotional, and/or physical needs are automatically being met. Tests, money, and whimsical numbers are now driving the schools, not the quality education that our children deserve.
Well unless UF closes Gainesville will always have a fair amount of top schools due to the high percentage of educated residents that work at UF and hospitals. College towns always have above average schools.
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:09 PM
 
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Let's take a deeper look at the "statistics" --- WHAT is the demographic profile of the typical dropout?
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:20 PM
 
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Well unless UF closes Gainesville will always have a fair amount of top schools due to the high percentage of educated residents that work at UF and hospitals. College towns always have above average schools.
I cannot agree with you on that one. Your statement of college towns always having above average (public?) schools just does not always hold true.
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:56 PM
 
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I cannot agree with you on that one. Your statement of college towns always having above average (public?) schools just does not always hold true.
Give me an example of a college town that you can't find some top public schools? I'm not talking about some tier 3 college either.
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