[maggiekate]

Florida is a real different State-When people did come in the ninetys in was warm, cheap, and a dollar did go far. Then the storms came, greed did enter, and people moved out. I still am here, however,
Florida is not for all. I did find it middle ground to buy. Then it went sky high, and people did buy, what
no way they could ever afford. Each state has there own special place to be. Florida during the winter is great, if the cold is not your cup of tea. I still find it hard to think ok it is March, and 83?

[maggiekate]

Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90

Sounds like any metro area up north to me.

Since the thread is about those who moved away and MOVED BACK let me tell you about crime, traffic and jobs.

Use Detroit for instance, you cannot find a job, if you leave your car in town for one minute it will be stolen, you cannot breathe because of the smog, the traffic is horrible ( probably every one trying to get the heck out of town!!).

How about Memphis, more crime then any city in Florida and no jobs to boot.
How about Atlanta, crime out to wazoo and traffic far worse then any Florida town. Been there many times!
How about Baltimore, talk about a crime ridden city. Lucky to get out of there alive.

Now lets talk illegals, if you voted a certain way this election then you ok'd the illegals to be here, just ask Pelosi as she believe they have more rights to get a job then you do. Do you watch the news? HINT HINT!!

Now lets talk illegals, NC has illegals crawling out of the woodwork. They are everywhere. If you think illegals are only in Florida then I have a boat to sell you.

Come to Columbus Ohio, yes Columbus Ohio. Go out to eat and you are out numbered 10 to 1 to foreigners who do not speak a lick of English.

We heard this song before, crime, illegals, traffic and jobs. But you know what?

There are far worse places then any city in Florida, FAR WORSE.

The song has been song to pieces and some of us know better.

If it was all that bad in Florida then why in the heck are SO MANY MOVING BACK !!!!

Why, Florida, is better than many places, and living in the North, and the cold, makes dreaming of Florida look way better! Not that
it really is, no place really is!

[Rhett_Butler]

Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90

You left out part of my quote.

I should have never left and caved into pressure from both sets of parents to come back. It was a huge mistake to come back here and now we want to move to Florida.

Just for your info, I know Florida very well, fact extremely well!

I am in or speak to people who live in Florida almost every day. I do tons of business with businesses in Florida and have both family and a large amount of friends who live in Florida. I own two websites on Florida travel and life.

I am in Florida at least once a month if not more. I used to be in Florida even more then that doing wholesale trade shows all over the state.

I met tons of people and still friends with them today and not one single person whom I talk to or messenger with tell me the same crap that posters here post. Sure we all know the economy is bad but that is bad everywhere.

Ohio has changed to, far WORSE them Florida would ever dream of.
Entire towns which flourish years ago are now ghost towns.

Here is a town that was booming in the 1960 and 70's, now look at it.

My dad worked in a steel mill that had 5,000 employees in 1979, now it is an empty building that is falling apart. This is in every single steel town along the Ohio River.

So when you bashers post how much Florida has changed, you have NO IDEA what change is, come to Ohio, Michigan, Ind, W. Pa and see towns falling apart at their seems.

You do not see entire towns doing this in Florida.






So the excuse that Florida has change mean ZERO to me, I know Florida and I know Ohio and Michigan and W Pa, West Virginia etc, and NO WAY NO HOW has Florida even can compare to the changes in these states.

And yes, we lost 27 years of a real life by living in cold Ohio, we have been here for our parents as they age and still are which is a positive, since we have many other siblings who can help take care of them and once one of them beat cancer our butts will be in Florida!

Do not tell me about change when you have lived in Florida and probably never been out of the state to see just how bad it is on the other side of the tracks.

Hi Floridabound09, long time no see!!! Obviously based on this you aren't as familiar with Florida as you claimed.... You driven the strips in Cocoa or Daytona Beach recently??? Every been to Okeechobee or Pahokee???

Obviously not....

[Rhett_Butler]

Originally Posted by 121804

And some people are only in their locales b/c of work issues or financial issues or whatever issue it is & they don't care for the heat.

How is your issue & problem with the snow anymore of value or significantlyof more important than those who have issues & don't care for the heat?

Once you take that first step off the pedestial, you may realize that your "issue" of NOT moving to FL & the snow & your allergies & your sinus headaches & shoveling is just as significant as someone who has issues with heat & can't mover FROM FL. Yours supposedly has to do with health care. Can't this person get health care in FL? Can't they be taken care of in FL? So, why are you still in OH? If you wanted it so badly, why aren't you there? This health care issue has been going on for 20 years? You attack others this way & deserve the same questions.

You don't like snow. Another person doesn't like heat.

Thus, you are all the same and your "excuse" is of no less value than anyone elses no matter how hard you spin it to fit the agenda you promote.

Like FL as much as you want. Just don't attack others who don't b/c their issues with staying in FL do not seem important or valuable TO YOU.

I wish I could put you on "auto-rep".... Nail on the head once again....

[Moderate Guy]

Originally Posted by TANaples

I find it very interesting in that the biggest defenders of the state of Florida are the wannabe residents of Florida. They don't live here. They are so enamoured of Florida that they cannot stand the fact that there are people living here, while THEY don't, who don't like it and "complain and don't move".

Hey, if you are already living in a place that gives you a RIGHT to ***** about it. If you don't, then just shut up until you actually move here.

Aw shucks, TAN, you're alright sometimes, but this post disappoints me.

C'mon, there are no requirements on these threads that stipulate that one must be a current resident to offer an opinion, are there? Many posters once lived in Florida, visit frequently, have loved ones there, do tons of research. No need to downgrade a poster's comments based on current non-residence in the state if they hold a view contrary to yours, is there?

How about your daughter (whom I happen to think is a nice person)? She's not a resident but she posts and I appreciate seeing her here even if she's not a resident.

Let's not all get bent out of shape over living in a state. It's petty to assail others - whoever does it, the bashers or non-bashers - because one likes or dislikes a specific state. Life's too short; we must each pursue our own paths, not someone else's.

Finally, there's no way that any state in this wonderful USA is so awful that it's not fit for human habitation. You wanna see that - go check out some Third World countries. A trip to some of those less fortunate shores will quickly make one realize that every single state in the good old USA is a wonderful place to be.

[TANaples]

I never said that my husband got OFFERS from other places. I said that he APPLIED to places all over and took the FIRST OFFER he got, which was in Florida. I have also posted that he said he would have moved ANYWHERE that offered him a job. He has said over and over himself to anybody who asks that if the first job offer had been in ALASKA, he would have moved there. Wanting to go to Florida had nothing to do with it.

[Moderate Guy]

One final comment on this thread and perhaps on CD...unless of course a beautiful lady invites me back to the beach for some sun, fun, frolic...there are comments by both bashers and lovers of the state that somehow seem way extreme and unwarranted.

One is not mentally unstable nor does one have personal emotional issues if one prefers seasonal changes or alternatively likes year-roung hot weather. The choice is one's personal one. We're all different.

Cheers to all.

[Sunny-Days90]

Originally Posted by Rhett_Butler

Hi Floridabound09, long time no see!!! Obviously based on this you aren't as familiar with Florida as you claimed.... You driven the strips in Cocoa or Daytona Beach recently??? Every been to Okeechobee or Pahokee???

Obviously not....

If you have read my post you would have known I call Daytona a total dump all the time and I do not like beaches on that side of the coast.

Drive up Rt 7 along the Ohio River, town after town looking like the above. You have a few towns in Florida that are bad as all states but nothing like driving up Rt 7 along the Ohio River, there is not one good town anymore. Those towns used to be flourishing, not any longer.

Been to Okeechobee many times, not as bad as Shawnee Ohio, New Straitsville Ohio, and most all towns along the Ohio River and WVa Pa border.

You can take a short drive of any small town in Florida and find a beautiful town full of history and beauty, not in Ohio you wont find that often.

Most historic towns are now run down and falling apart due to millions of good paying manufacturing jobs gone overseas.

Something Florida has over most states is you cannot send jobs all the whiners talk not having overseas!!! PLUS TO FLORIDA !

Guess we found a positive about Florida with this discussion. Jobs in the midwest will never come back but jobs in Florida will always go up and down with the economy. At least there is an up and down, in most of the steel towns in the midwest will never be back up, ever. They are gone.

[Moderate Guy]

Originally Posted by Moderate Guy

One final comment on this thread and perhaps on CD...unless of course a beautiful lady invites me back to the beach for some sun, fun, frolic...there are comments by both bashers and lovers of the state that somehow seem way extreme and unwarranted.

One is not mentally unstable nor does one have personal emotional issues if one prefers seasonal changes or alternatively likes year-roung hot weather. The choice is one's personal one. We're all different.

Cheers to all.

sorry about typo - "year-round" not "year-roung."

[Rhett_Butler]

Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90

If you have read my post you would have known I call Daytona a total dump all the time and I do not like beaches on that side of the coast.

I read the post and you didn't mention that anywhere... If you said so elsewhere I didn't see it. Not a student of your posts, nor do I care to peruse them all. If you've said that then fine... This post didn't indicate it.

Originally Posted by Sunny Days90

Drive up Rt 7 along the Ohio River, town after town looking like the above. You have a few towns in Florida that are bad as all states but nothing like driving up Rt 7 along the Ohio River, there is not one good town anymore. Those towns used to be flourishing, not any longer.

But you conclude somehow that this means Florida rocks? Or take this as some proof that Florida is immune to these issues or doesn't have these issues? It's just different.

Originally Posted by SunnyDays90

Been to Okeechobee many times, not as bad as Shawnee Ohio, New Straitsville Ohio, and most all towns along the Ohio River and WVa Pa border.

You're trying to paint a sunny picture that this somehow doesn't/hasn't happened in Florida when it most certainly does.... An industrial town that has had the industry abandon it is going to look different than an agricultural town that has had the same thing happen..... The people and town are no less poor though....

Originally Posted by SunnyDays90

You can take a short drive of any small town in Florida and find a beautiful town full of history and beauty, not in Ohio you wont find that often.

History? LOL!!! Nothing significant. Heck, the Spanish didn't really even want to attempt to colonize Florida. Perhaps they were the first to realize it's issues?

Originally Posted by SunnyDays90

Something Florida has over most states is you cannot send jobs all the whiners talk not having overseas!!! PLUS TO FLORIDA !

Originally Posted by SunnyDays90

Guess we found a positive about Florida with this discussion. Jobs in the midwest will never come back but jobs in Florida will always go up and down with the economy. At least there is an up and down, in most of the steel towns in the midwest will never be back up, ever. They are gone.

Not sure your bolded statement is even English, but..... Yes, tourism provides jobs, but not many lucrative ones... Have plenty of friends in the hospitality industry in Florida and used to be myself. Tough way to make a living, crappy hours, low pay, etc...