[FringedNFab]

Funny people can talk about potential Floridians who live out of state right now but still offer positive comments about Florida, but what gets me is the ones who b***h and gripe the entire time living in Florida and they move out of state finally and still something draws them to this forum where they still visit daily and still b***h and gripe on a continuing basis, wtf? What is it with those people? It's those people who I think are severely sad and depressed people. And just want to spread their negativity all over the place hoping to bring everyone else down into their sad pathetic state. The point of this is, if ones who live currently out of state should be disqualified from posting/offering their positive views on all things Florida, then it's only fair that ones who finally move out should automatically shut up too.

[TNRyan23]

Originally Posted by FringedNFab

Funny people can talk about potential Floridians who live out of state right now but still offer positive comments about Florida, but what gets me is the ones who b***h and gripe the entire time living in Florida and they move out of state finally and still something draws them to this forum where they still visit daily and still b***h and gripe on a continuing basis, wtf? What is it with those people? It's those people who I think are severely sad and depressed people. And just want to spread their negativity all over the place hoping to bring everyone else down into their sad pathetic state. The point of this is, if ones who live currently out of state should be disqualified from posting/offering their positive views on all things Florida, then it's only fair that ones who finally move out should automatically shut up too.

This coming from someone from Ohio ?

[runswithscissors]

Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90

Do not tell me about change when you have lived in Florida and probably never been out of the state to see just how bad it is on the other side of the tracks.

LOL yeah, prolly. ha ha.... I just moved here full time last year from Philly. Born and raised there. Both sides of my family are from Philly since 1875. Also lived on the Lower East Side NYC. The Lower East side was a pit, albeit fun until Giuliani cleaned up NY and took away most of the fun. SEE? A place can be good and bad all at the same time. A concept that eludes you.

I married a Greek and spent 5 months a year on the beautiful Greek coast and islands. Coulda stayed if I wanted. BUT IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT THE "BEAUTY" OR CLIMATE IN LIFE.

Since Europe is so small I coulda lived anywhere there, too...Italy, France but NO....it's not all about the weather.

My husband took a job in San Fransisco. Did I stay? NOPE...it's not all about the weather, especially in crazy California with all the Pelosi lunatic liberals spending the state into poverty. Not to mention all the illegal immigration amnesty cities like San Fran.

Ever hear of someone living in two states at once? uh duh....That was me since 1962 when my father moved the family here part time. They had planes in the 60's.

My grandmother's brother lived here since the 20's. My aunt lived here since the 50's. My father since the 60's. My mother every winter since the 70's. My son since college 10 years ago. And me throughout the decades until I CHOSE TO FULLY RELOCATE last year. Fully aware of the deficiencies of Florida.

You need to grow up and realize that every place has deficiencies especially Florida and to admit them doesn't justify all the oddball characterizations and attacks from you guys who only see things through palm tree sunglasses...nor the "not appreciating her beauty" high school type whining.

I have a perfect condo on the beautiful Intracoastal Waterway with no mortgage, a paid off car and the freedom to do whatever I want any day of the week. That doesn't mean I should make up stupid stylized romance novels about Florida when people come here wanting to know what it's like. A place is not defined completely by it's "beauty". And newsflash, when you move here you're going to have adjustment problems just like everyone else including the exhausting humidity and just hope your body adjusts in a year or so. A minor problem which will become secondary to finding a decent dentist or doctor. I still fly back to Phila for my dentist.

Cuba and Haiti have beautiful beaches and nice weather too....wanna move there?

[FringedNFab]

Originally Posted by TNRyan23

This coming from someone from Ohio ?

Yes and a potential Floridian like others soon. You moved to TN and still post here it seems daily. If things were so gawd awful in Florida, why do people still hang out in a place they so hated, and not join the respective state forums they live in now? Not harping on you TNRyan, I'm just curious what keeps people coming back here.

[beachmouse]

Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90

Drive up Rt 7 along the Ohio River, town after town looking like the above. You have a few towns in Florida that are bad as all states but nothing like driving up Rt 7 along the Ohio River, there is not one good town anymore.

Next time you come down, take US 19 down from Tallahassee to the Tampa exburbs. Between the faily long stretch of road from the Tallahassee exit to about Crystal River, the only decent town is Chiefland. Perry may look like it's got a future, but it has some major social issues. The rest of the road is full of towns that were essentially abandoned when I-75 was built and the traffic moved eastward.

[TNRyan23]

Originally Posted by FringedNFab

Yes and a potential Floridian like others soon. You moved to TN and still post here it seems daily. If things were so gawd awful in Florida, why do people still hang out in a place they so hated, and not join the respective state forums they live in now? Not harping on you TNRyan, I'm just curious what keeps people coming back here.

Check my stats, I post in my current hometown's forum too.

I'm 26 and lived almost 2/3 of my life in Florida. Yes. I'm going to post here. What brings me back to this forum ? I have friends on this forum and several people I talk to on this forum daily. I also have my so called forum enemies that I do battle with daily. It's actually kinda fun in a " don't have a life " kinda fashion.

At any rate, I started posting in the Florida forum when I wondered over here and saw all the bashing that was going on and thought to myself " Damn, I guess some things never change. " At that point, I also saw the droves of homers that talk about how Florida is so great because it has sunshine and palm trees and the often popular " We have a cheap cost of living because we don't have a state income tax " You never hear the palm colored glasses crowd ALSO talk about the insurance rates on both HOME and AUTO, You never hear them talk about property taxes that are through the roof and the facts that most insurance companies won't even insure a home that's near the coast. The list goes on and on.

While my posts my not matter much to alot of people and many people may say " Why is a Tennessean posting info about Florida " I don't care. I feel it's my duty as a native and former resident to warn people about the great state of Florida before they make a major mistake in their life. Florida is NOT for everyone but the way some of these cheerleaders around here pep the place up, Who could refuse the temptation to move to paradise ?

I may not be popular but I refuse to let some homer New Yorker that makes great money in New York move his wife and kids to Florida on limited savings and no jobs lined up thinking he can make it. Even if I can't stop the guy myself I feel better knowing that I atleast warned the sap.

I'm not a Florida basher or hater or whatever the new word is this week. I tell it like it is. Some people don't like it and some think It's my mission to just come in here and blast the state to peices but that's not true. It's the farthest from the truth.

I grew up in Tampa and for the most part I loved it. The beaches are nice to have and yes, The weather is great most of the time. There are some areas of the state where you can have a really great life if you manage to land a decent job. I have tons of bad memories and I'd say they outweigh the good but that doesn't affect my judgement on an area. I LOVE St. Pete Beach. I would never trash or bash that area. I also loved living in Ft. Myers but the job market there sucked.

My point is, Most people ( and I think they know who they are ) See a bad post about Florida and automatically start attacking the poster as being a basher or trasher or whatever but in reallity, That person may be telling the truth and doesn't hate the whole state. Some attackers on this forum provoke ALOT more then is really needed and when attacked most people will declare war and you get threads like this.

Oh well.

I hope you move to Florida and I hope it's everything you're hoping that it is.

Good luck.

[Dee2e]

Originally Posted by FringedNFab

Funny people can talk about potential Floridians who live out of state right now but still offer positive comments about Florida, but what gets me is the ones who b***h and gripe the entire time living in Florida and they move out of state finally and still something draws them to this forum where they still visit daily and still b***h and gripe on a continuing basis, wtf? What is it with those people? It's those people who I think are severely sad and depressed people. And just want to spread their negativity all over the place hoping to bring everyone else down into their sad pathetic state. The point of this is, if ones who live currently out of state should be disqualified from posting/offering their positive views on all things Florida, then it's only fair that ones who finally move out should automatically shut up too.

The reason is simple. There are just people who cannot be happy no matter where they are so they try to make others as miserable as they are. The Florida forums are heavily visited so they troll here and try to discourage others from finding their own happiness.

I say, if you don't like an area, find a way to move and find the peace and contentment you want. But if you just want to find misery....misery loves company and the Internet is full of both.

If you want real information that is factual, not opinion, go to the government agencies. If you want to know about crime in a neighborhood, visit the Police Department and ask for a list of all class for the last 90 days. Talk to policeman who patrol that area. That will tell you what you need to know about the neighborhood. If you want to know about schools, in Florida, look at the grade the school earned over the last few years. You'll see the current rating and the trend. Taxes vary. Look at the city and county millage rates. That will give you a general idea of the taxes. And then when you find a property, look at the county property appraiser's website for the current taxes and projected taxes based on your sales price. Don't forget to talk to people who actually live in that neighborhood. Talk to several people. Visit weekends, weekdays, and week nights to see the activity in the area. Attend an HOA meeting, if you have time. This is the best way to find out about a neighborhood. That way you have done your diligence and can judge for yourself if this is the neighborhood that fits your lifestyle.

If you look at the posts of those that continually post so much negative things in one thread, click their name and find all their posts. You'll see they post the same things in many places. Consider the source. This is the Internet! People often hide behind a screenname for a reason.

Use your own judgement. You are the best source of what you want for your life!! Trust your instincts!

[FringedNFab]

It's cool TNRyan, from what I have read you do just tell things like they are and don't just bit** and bash Florida all day long simply trying to make everyone else feel as miserable. From my time on here I basically see 2 groups of people, the ones who attract negative people and the ones who attract the positive feeling ones. I guess that's just the way things will be on here. I take it you left out for a better life and job, I just hope people realize that same thing is happening all over the U.S. with people and Florida's not alone. I wouldn't say I'm a cheerleader here, I came here a long while back just to gather helpful information both good and bad about areas, jobs, etc. and while I've taken in the good and the bad from people, with some you just have to shrug off as just miserable people who complain all the time about anything in life. That's not pointing any one person out, but we do have these kinds of people in life, everywhere. So you just leave things at that. I try to use my time on here in a positive productive way and would like to try and get along with everyone and not have to nit pick with anyone and I'm not trying to make any enemies really. We all have those days tho where we wont be pushed or tested I know. I've been planning this move for quite some time now and very aware of what's going on down there and right up north here so I'm well prepared as anyone should be. This isn't something one should do overnight, altho I personally know of people who have moved on a whim and done just fine elsewhere. But that won't be me. I appreciate everyones input really.

[ChrisA70]

Originally Posted by FringedNFab

It's nice you finally admit that Florida wasn't so bad after all. I remember you too were one of the ones who vented and cried daily of how you hated everything Florida. And you wanted the cooler climate and change of seasons up north again, only to find out just how drab and dreary things can be up here. Maybe this is exactly what Tanaples needs and then she too may change her mind after venting so long.

Now to clarify and not to put words in my mouth here... I did NOT return to Florida for weather reasons. It was just as sunny there in Massachusetts as here in Florida for the 6 months I was there. Yes it was cooler, cold as a matter of fact at times, but I dealt with it like I deal with the crazy heat here. I came here for employment reasons. I do love Massachusetts, and it will be my home always. Florida too is my home too... I am not getting into the "hate this, hate that" arguement you all are having here. I hate things about BOTH places, but have more likes about here and New England... Yes I admit things are good here, NOW THAT I HAVE A JOB... I would like to be more positive on CD now. I don't remember "crying" on here either but, whatever...

[121804]

Originally Posted by FringedNFab

Funny people can talk about potential Floridians who live out of state right now but still offer positive comments about Florida, but what gets me is the ones who b***h and gripe the entire time living in Florida and they move out of state finally and still something draws them to this forum where they still visit daily and still b***h and gripe on a continuing basis, wtf? What is it with those people? It's those people who I think are severely sad and depressed people. And just want to spread their negativity all over the place hoping to bring everyone else down into their sad pathetic state. The point of this is, if ones who live currently out of state should be disqualified from posting/offering their positive views on all things Florida, then it's only fair that ones who finally move out should automatically shut up too.

It's funny...the posters who sit around patting themselves on the back about fantastic they are b/c they are so positive & happy & spread pure love & joy to the human race yet have no problems attacking others, putting them down & judging them...

Even funnier, most of these posters don't even live in the state.

So, you have issues with people who left FL & still post but you don't even live in FL? Really, to see the sad & depressed...just look in your mirror....