[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by sware2cod

October used to be my favorite month in Florida. The weather would be nearly perfect most days. You could do outdoor activities nearly every day without sweating. Utopia.

Past several years October is too hot to do those outdoor activities regularly throughout the month.

That makes sense...and you can see it in the temperature history

Florida has been in a up cycle since around 1970....exactly like it did from around 1900 to around 1950

....temperatures have always fluctuated up and down

Temperature history chart shows it clearly....Florida temperatures bottomed out in the 1970's...then slowly started increasing again

http://appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/RS...s/image001.jpg

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by WRnative

It makes sense to you, IF you're actually telling the truth. Everyone else can read your linked anomaly chart and compare it the clarity of the charts linked in post 60 and clearly see that a substantial warming has taken place in Miami.

You are not good at this....if you're going to accuse someone of not telling the truth...
..don't make it so obvious that you are not...you know I posted a anomaly of temperature averages....and you posted early hot days....not even close to the same thing
early hot days are weather....temperature averages for the year are climate
and if you don't like it....take it up with Berkeley Earth....

Your hysterical hand waving is about an increase less than 2/10th of a degree....and your chart starts in 1970 when Miami's population was a little over 1 million
Since then, Miami's population has increased over 3 times more.....almost 3 million now

...do you think all that added asphalt, parking lots, roads, businesses, houses, air conditioning, cars. on and on
might have increased the temperature 2/10th of a degree?...any sane person would be surprised it didn't increase it more

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by WRnative

The actual empirical record shows massive warming for Miami.

Miami Just Had Its Hottest Month on Record | Climate Central

...and this is what not telling the truth looks like
Your link is claiming that July 2017 was the hottest month recorded in Miami

You failed to link the National Weather Service...that recorded, produced the data....and the NWS says it highly unlikely that it was the hottest
===

August 3, 2017
NWS Considers Miami Climate Records To Be ‘Suspect’

Highly unlikely. Miami only has 40 years of real weather records, and even current data may be compromised by recent construction work.

In 1977, the official weather station was moved three miles further inland to its current location near the west end of the runways at the airport.

Miami’s official summer temperature since 1977 is also going to be hotter than before that date, since the gauge is now located much further inland.

Even considering this, many of the recent “records” at the Miami Airport aren’t matched by other nearby weather stations, including the July 2017 record. Why the sudden spike at MIA?

One possible explanation may be the construction of the 826-836 intersection. Since 2009, the project has been adding miles of hot asphalt and concrete in close proximity to the weather station, which could be amplifying the heat island effect.


https://www.thenextmiami.com/july-pr...ite-headlines/

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

You are not good at this....if you're going to accuse someone of not telling the truth...
..don't make it so obvious that you are not...you know I posted a anomaly of temperature averages....and you posted early hot days....not even close to the same thing
early hot days are weather....temperature averages for the year are climate
and if you don't like it....take it up with Berkeley Earth....

Your hysterical hand waving is about an increase less than 2/10th of a degree....and your chart starts in 1970 when Miami's population was a little over 1 million
Since then, Miami's population has increased over 3 times more.....almost 3 million now

...do you think all that added asphalt, parking lots, roads, businesses, houses, air conditioning, cars. on and on
might have increased the temperature 2/10th of a degree?...any sane person would be surprised it didn't increase it more

What is the impact of 35 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions that accumulates in the atmosphere annually?

Scientists say over 90 percent of the resulting excess heat is absorbed in the oceans.

https://www.climate.gov/news-feature...n-heat-content

The Gulf Stream, which removes heat from the tropics, is slowing with serious consequences for temperatures and humidity levels in southern Florida, not even considering more conducive conditions for more severe hurricanes.

https://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...-a8300896.html

All of these major changes belie the importance of the difficulties of the National Weather Service in recording official Miami temperatures. BTW, nothing that you posted denies that July of 2017 was bloody hot compared to other recorded months, whether or not it was THE actual record month.

Just reporting the objective reality. Apparently it's so bad that you and other deniers claim it's hysteria, posting obfuscations and prevarications to hide the empirical evidence and the peer-reviewed scientific research that describes the real consequences of man-made climate change.

Why do you think that sea level rise is accelerating and threatening Miami, especially Miami Beach, and salt water intrusion is threatening the region's fresh water supplies???

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...209328849.html

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/...212844644.html

A decade or two from now, expect even higher atmospheric temperature and humidity readings in southern FL, apart from more severe ocean flooding. You can't refute it, let alone deal with it. Tell us what happens to the 35 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions added to the atmosphere annually. Tell us why ocean temperatures are rising. Tell us why sea level rise if accelerating. Those are the considerations that truly matter.

[beach43ofus]

Y'all are making me laugh. The time frame you're debating is like .000032% of Earth's history. It's way too short a time span to draw any conclusions.

It's like taking a temp reading for 1 second, then using it to project the temps over the next 1,000 years off that 1 reading.

Imagine 1 grain of sand on Siesta Key Beach. That grain of sand is the time span you are debating. Then take all the rest of the grains of sand on the rest of Siesta Key beach, and that's the remaining time in the history of Earth.

You'd have a better chance of being right by predicting that a newborn baby boy would become the next Babe Ruth.

You'd have a better chance of buying a Power Ball lottery ticket, then debating that it's a sure winner.

It makes 0 diff it the temps have risen or fallen over the past 100 yrs. If we had 10,000 yrs of data, maybe we could take an educated guess.

[LKJ1988]

Originally Posted by WRnative

Baloney. Exactly how much closer is the earth to the sun in the last 3 decades and how much did this impact global warming? Linked, peer-reviewed research please.

What has been the impact of the 35 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuel burning that accumulates in the atmosphere each year? How is it that man-made climate change science deniers can never discuss, at all, any of the salient issues that so concern scientists -- carbon dioxide emissions, ocean warming, ocean acidity, etc.?

Are deniers proud of being serial prevaricators and obfuscators regarding an existential threat facing mankind?

12.36 miliion miles closer. The BS you spew magoo is a joke like a silly bloke. The sad fact is we are seeing a normal ramp up in heating.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by LKJ1988

12.36 miliion miles closer. The BS you spew magoo is a joke like a silly bloke. The sad fact is we are seeing a normal ramp up in heating.

Link please. What's the source of this statement? Isn't there an article describing this impact?

Statements such as this are highly suspect unless substantiated.

The real impact of solar radiation on earth actually suggests that man-made climate change is much more impactful in warming the planet than deniers either admit or understand, as the sun has shown a slightly cooling trend for the last 35 years.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/sol...termediate.htm

When solar radiance actually increases again, we will face even greater consequence due to the influence of deniers in the U.S. of not only delaying the needed transition away from fossil fuels but actually promoting increased fossil fuel consumption. Actually deniers seemingly are promoting an evil anti-scientific campaign.

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by WRnative

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

gotta love it when someone tries to look smart by using big words....and not smart enough to use normal words in their place

ooooooh big scary numbers........CO2 has increased 0.001 %

So do what hotshot??....China, is now emitting twice as much CO2 as we are...even if we stopped all emissions, which is impossible....it won't make one bit of difference

There is absolutely nothing....zero, nada.....we can do about it

....enjoy the great weather and more food

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

Y'all are making me laugh. The time frame you're debating is like .000032% of Earth's history. It's way too short a time span to draw any conclusions.

It's like taking a temp reading for 1 second, then using it to project the temps over the next 1,000 years off that 1 reading.

Imagine 1 grain of sand on Siesta Key Beach. That grain of sand is the time span you are debating. Then take all the rest of the grains of sand on the rest of Siesta Key beach, and that's the remaining time in the history of Earth.

You'd have a better chance of being right by predicting that a newborn baby boy would become the next Babe Ruth.

You'd have a better chance of buying a Power Ball lottery ticket, then debating that it's a sure winner.

It makes 0 diff it the temps have risen or fallen over the past 100 yrs. If we had 10,000 yrs of data, maybe we could take an educated guess.

Just once more you fall back on your "Big Lie" denier propaganda, repeatedly refuted in other C-D forum threads.

Global warming due to man-made climate change is taking place over just several decades, yet you want to compare it with changes that took thousands of years if not eons. Sick.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/cli...termediate.htm

What happens to the 35 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions that accumulate in the atmosphere annually due to fossil fuel consumption? Your repeated silence suggests the depth of your deceitful postings.

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by WRnative

What is the impact of 35 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions that accumulates in the atmosphere annually?

...and only less than 7 million metric tons comes from the USA

So wordy...I'm play the game with you... what to do about it?

You've been sitting on your butt in Cleveland.. spamming this forum with this garbage for months...

You think it's real...so you obviously know how to fix it....let's hear it