[sunrico90]

Originally Posted by macguy

I owned a bar when the age was 18. There is nothing you can do, all it takes is one old enough to buy and they go off to the beach and all get drunk. Sometimes they show up in the bar drunk already and if they get caught leaving your place it is assumed you served them. I had that happen more then once.

I had a funny one happen once, I asked the kid to show me some ID and he puled out a picture of himself at Disney World. He said, "See that is me on the end you can recognize me". I said to him, "Forget checking your ID, we need to check your IQ, get the hell out of here.

One trick they used was fake out of state ID's from states that didn't use pictures. I had a thing I got from the FBI that had all the codes of every different states driver license and how to read them. I would give them the benefit of the doubt and look it up but usually just asking them the capitol of their supposedly home state would expose them. Most could not even make a good guess.

I do believe that is about us parents to teach the proper individual resposibilities to our kids. I drink, but my son (25 years old) does not drink or smoke. I think that we did superb....

[inftmyers]

Originally Posted by tallrick

Oh great, more tax money is being wasted. Look, minors are the responsibility of their parents, anyone over the age of consent (18) is not. If the parents can't do their job what can Government do? Underage drinking will always continue. Listen legislators, we want the tax situation fixed first, OK! If you guys keep wasting time with nonsense like this we will boot you out!

I agree. Underage drinking will always be a problem. Heck, I know parents who actually buy alcohol for their kids. Its a sad situation and it is one that will never be solved without placing serious restrictions on the sale of alcohol. I agree, there are a lot more important issues that need to be taken care of.

[sunrico90]

The parents have the responsability to discuss this issue with their kids and they must be accountable. I have a friend that their son was killed by a 17 years old drunk driver. This only hits home went we know the person that was killed.



“The legal age for alcohol in the USA is 21 years old. The National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 required all states to raise their minimum purchase and public possession of alcohol age to 21. States that did not comply faced a reduction in highway funds under the Federal Highway Aid Act. The U.S. Department of Transportation has determined that all states are in compliance with this act. The national law specifically prohibits purchase and public possession of alcoholic beverages. It does not prohibit persons under 21 (also called youth or minors) from drinking. The term "public possession" is strictly defined and does not apply to possession for the following:

* An established religious purpose, when accompanied by a parent, spouse or legal guardian age 21 or older
* Medical purposes when prescribed or administered by a licensed physician, pharmacist, dentist, nurse, hospital or medical institution
* In private clubs or establishments
* In the course of lawful employment by a duly licensed manufacturer, wholesaler or retailer.” 1 (Emphasis in original. Conspicuously not emphasized is the significant fact that “the law does not prohibit persons under 21 (also called youth or minors) from drinking.”)

[sunrico90]

Test your DUI IQ. See how many you get right. I'll post the answer tomorrow...

1. Which contains more alcohol a. a 12 ounce bottle of beer b. 1 1/2 ounce shot of whiskey c. 4 ounce glass of wine

2. About _____ out of every five Americans will be involved in an alcohol-related crash at some time in their lives.

3. Alcohol accounts for about (1/3, 1/2, 2/3) of all auto fatalities in the United States.

4. There is an alcohol related auto injury about every (4-sec, 33-sec, 2-min.).

5. About (5%, 16%, 24%) of 15-20 year olds killed in traffic crashes had a blood alcohol content of .10 or higher.

6. True or False. Deaths from alcohol related auto accidents have steadily increased over the past 10 years.

7. The probability of a crash begins to increase significantly at (.05, .08, and .10) blood alcohol content and climbs rapidly after (.08, .10, and .15) blood alcohol level.

8. The legal limit for blood alcohol content in Florida is (.05, .08, and .10).

9. The cost associated with a DUI arrest has been estimated to be ($2,500, $6,800, and $15,000).

10. As a person consumes more alcohol, his/her self confidence (increases, decreases) while his/her physical ability (increases, decreases).

11. How much does the best drunk driving insurance cost ($1,000/year, $1,500/year, 25 cents).

[Ladywithafan]

....from my reading of the Sarasota/Bradenton DUI arrests....for DUI....it's not the teenagers getting pulled...it's our bored geriatrics!

Our teens are too busy shooting cheese, popping Oxy's and hitting the pipe to even have time for a cocktail, please........


The legislature is so not with the times...we thought Fast Times at Rigemont was relative, you only need to meet your child's weed dealer to see capital enterprise in action.

[sunrico90]

1. Actually all of the listed drinks have approximately equal amounts of alcohol.

2. About 2 out of every 5 will be involved in an alcohol related accident.

3. Alcohol accounts for about one half of all auto fatalities.

4. There is an injury due to alcohol related auto accident every 33 seconds

5. About 24% of 15-20 year olds killed in traffic accidents had a blood alcohol level of .10 or higher

6. False. Due to the work of organizations such as Mothers Against Drunk Drivers (MADD) in bringing the magnitude of the problem, Fatalities have actually decreased from 25,000 to 17,500 people a year. Still a tremendous waste.

7. The probability of a crash rises significantly at .05% which is below the legal limit and climbs rapidly after .08 blood alcohol level.

8. The legal limit in Florida is .08

9. A DUI can cost upwards to $15,000. This includes fines, license restoration, lawyers fees and high risk insurance for the next three years.

10. As a person consumes more alcohol, his/her belief in their abilities increases at the same time their actual physical abilities decrease is a deadly combination.

11. The best drunk driving insurance is the quarter that it will cost you to call a friend, parent or a cab. Pretty cheap insurance considering the alternative is a real risk of brain damage, spinal cord injury or death. Arranging for a designated driver is another way that has worked to reduce DUI deaths.