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Old 04-10-2010, 02:03 PM
 
Location: between Ath,GR & Mia,FL...
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Low tax = low growth is a trap...
U can have quality growth (un-Texan) without raising taxes...
For instance,due to the climate,we don't need infrastructure for snow/ice,we have no earthquakes & fires CA style.
If there is 1 state which can become a model for quality growth,it is FL...
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Old 04-10-2010, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Lincoln County Road or Armageddon
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Low tax = low growth is a trap...
U can have quality growth (un-Texan) without raising taxes...
For instance,due to the climate,we don't need infrastructure for snow/ice,we have no earthquakes & fires CA style.
If there is 1 state which can become a model for quality growth,it is FL...
Is there another place called Florida I don't know about? The Florida where I live is the poster child for runaway growth and how not to do urban planning. You have arguably one of the most corrupt governmental bodies in the world in Tallahassee who would like nothing better than to see the whole state paved over. As long as they get their cut, of course. Can't wait to vote "yes" on the Hometown Democracy amendment.
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Old 04-10-2010, 03:26 PM
 
Location: between Ath,GR & Mia,FL...
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Paved over..?
Ths state has very low urbanisation,plenty of undeveloped land...
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:12 PM
 
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Oops,,Fl to...raise taxes..?

We are talking about how to ...lower taxes...

Increasing the subdivision size,will increae the price of lots,so only succesful people will be able to afford FL land...

Unlike TX,where all the deadbeats are heading,because of the ridiculously low land prices...
Florida should hope to replicate some of the business model of the large cities in Texas plus the university system and entrepreneurial nature of California. Do you realize what metro area (hint: the state where the 'deadbeats' are going) is number two behind NYC for fortune 500 companies or how many of the innovations over the past hundred years came from the 'left' coast? Florida for a state approaching 20 million has great potential but really needs to diversify away from what it is known best for to ever reach it's potential..
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Old 04-12-2010, 07:49 PM
 
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Oops,,Fl to...raise taxes..?

We are talking about how to ...lower taxes...

Increasing the subdivision size,will increae the price of lots,so only succesful people will be able to afford FL land...

Unlike TX,where all the deadbeats are heading,because of the ridiculously low land prices...
If the money ever actually went to paying off prior debt, I would not be opposed to raising the taxes to pay off the debt. Because you are paying a good chunk of change just in "debt services" which is just interest on past debt.


I would rather pay a little more in the short term if they then either became reduced long term, or I got more out of each tax dollar spent. Because when you have a large amount of debt per capita like some states (California, NJ) a lot of the money in taxes is just wasted paying off past debt
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Old 04-12-2010, 07:57 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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In my opinion, simply eliminating poverty in every state could avoid the concerns mentioned previously; since our federal Congress is delegated the power to tax and "raise money for the general welfare" to pay the Debts of the several United States.
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Old 04-13-2010, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pinellas County
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tongue in cheek but maybe keeping hollywood out of the legislature might help
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Old 04-13-2010, 06:08 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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It's our tax money. Only income transfers which are for the general welfare and common defense are specifically enumerated as the reason for which our tax monies are to be raised.

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A power to destroy the freedom of the press, the trial by jury, or even to regulate the course of descents, or the forms of conveyances, must be very singularly expressed by the terms "to raise money for the general welfare."

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The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty is a government strong enough to protect the interests of the people, and a people strong enough and well enough informed to maintain its sovereign control over its government.
- Franklin D. Roosevelt, 32nd US President
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