[fauve]

Originally Posted by vaughnwilliams

Great idea. Hay was used quite successfully in the Santa Barbara oil spill in '69. I don't know why it's not tried now.

Because BP owns the subsidiary that produces the chemical dispersants, I kid you not. The EPA has recently banned them from using any more of it. I guess they finally got them to turn over the ingredients and they weren't pleased by what's in it. I suspect they accounted for the sea turtle deaths where they could find no evidence of oil.

Maybe now they'll finally move to the tried and true green method.

[mango23]

Originally Posted by Gixxer1K

I was skeptical at first, but after watching the short video, these 2 guy's are onto something.



Cool solution to clean up oil disaster. [VIDEO]

Not really, what they are demonstrating is cohesion not absorption. The oil will stick to most anything, that is the problem. They can dump hay on the beach and it may help pick it up but on the water all it will do is mix with the oil and float around. It won't absorb it. When you pick it up for the most part the hay will absorb the water while the oil just drips off. Heck, cat litter will pick up oil for that matter. Human hair "WILL" actually pick up oil in fact hundreds times it's own weight and can be rung out and reused. These guys are trying to figure how to make a buck but their plan is all wet and I am very sure it has already been thought of and tried many years ago as have many other materials as people expermented. Kevin Costner the actor has a company of some kind to clean up oil spills. I saw a headline about it but haven't read the details yet.

[vaughanwilliams]

Originally Posted by fauve

Because BP owns the subsidiary that produces the chemical dispersants, I kid you not. The EPA has recently banned them from using any more of it. I guess they finally got them to turn over the ingredients and they weren't pleased by what's in it. I suspect they accounted for the sea turtle deaths where they could find no evidence of oil.

Maybe now they'll finally move to the tried and true green method.

Yeah, I read that too. Are we still the United States Of America or we just a Corporatocracy in need of a name change? Even our military is getting subbed out to corporations.

[vaughanwilliams]

Originally Posted by mango23

Not really, what they are demonstrating is cohesion not absorption. The oil will stick to most anything, that is the problem. They can dump hay on the beach and it may help pick it up but on the water all it will do is mix with the oil and float around. It won't absorb it. When you pick it up for the most part the hay will absorb the water while the oil just drips off. Heck, cat litter will pick up oil for that matter. Human hair "WILL" actually pick up oil in fact hundreds times it's own weight and can be rung out and reused. These guys are trying to figure how to make a buck but their plan is all wet and I am very sure it has already been thought of and tried many years ago as have many other materials as people expermented. Kevin Costner the actor has a company of some kind to clean up oil spills. I saw a headline about it but haven't read the details yet.

I agree-there's no way those two came up with that idea on their own. Costner has some type of huge centrifuge to separate the oil and water. He's invested like 24 million dollars into this.

[mango23]

Originally Posted by vaughnwilliams

I agree-there's no way those two came up with that idea on their own. Costner has some type of huge centrifuge to separate the oil and water. He's invested like 24 million dollars into this.

I just watched a short news clip on the KC thing. It does work and it also recovers the oil so it can be used maybe paying for some of the cost as the job gets done.

[matchpoint]

Originally Posted by vaughnwilliams

Yeah, I read that too. Are we still the United States Of America or we just a Corporatocracy in need of a name change? Even our military is getting subbed out to corporations.

This.

[TampaKaren]

Excellent coverage on CNN/Larry King last night. Phillippe Cousteau took a ~500ft diving trip into an oil tunnel. The images were absolutely heartbreaking. BP's priority now is obviously on stopping the leak. I would like to see some organized efforts on cleanup and damage control and less media/government barking and finger pointing. I feel really helpless.

[mango23]

Originally Posted by TampaKaren

Excellent coverage on CNN/Larry King last night. Phillippe Cousteau took a ~500ft diving trip into an oil tunnel. The images were absolutely heartbreaking. BP's priority now is obviously on stopping the leak. I would like to see some organized efforts on cleanup and damage control and less media/government barking and finger pointing. I feel really helpless.

I saw that. The part that really made it real was to see a fish swimming through the oil. It was just a fish but it made me cry. This whole thing makes me sick and I don' mean figuratively. It sickens and angers me. These corporations be it oil, banks what ever who do these things in the name of profit are little more the terrorists. They destroy our country with little regard for anything but their own short term gains. Add to that our own government who are bought and sold, there is no other way to say it and we as citizens mean nothing.

People like the Tea party guys who believe they are taking things into their own hands are little more the stooges for a whole different group of what are political opportunists who will use them for their own gains. I doubt anything has changed for a thousand years, be it Rome or Washington, those in power are corrupt. I don't say it was their intention when they went into politics, many may in the beginning have had the highest of ideals but it is just the nature of the beast.

[doggiebus]

Some more images Oil Spill Pictures

[muggums]

those make me want to cry