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Old 02-08-2011, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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During my College years I worked in a beef packinghouse for several years. Our place was a licensed Kosher facility so a lot of product we handled was sent to major Jewish markets on the East Coast. Some of the items that we shipped to those markets were things like Sweetbreads, Brains,Tongues, Oxtails, Hearts, Livers, Briskets and of course the front quarters. I am not familiar with all the Kosher dietary rules but one thing I always wondered was why is it that the Hind Quarters (cuts like the Loin and Round) are not acceptable for Kosher BUT Oxtails were? After all an Oxtail is on the hind end of the critter not his nose.

BTW one of the Rabbis I worked with offered me a serving of Oxtail Soup that his wife had made for him and it was delicious. The same Rabbi told me in secret the hardest part of being Jewish was not being able to eat Bacon with Eggs. One reason I am glad I was not born Jewish.

GL2
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Old 02-09-2011, 01:13 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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"The "sinew of the thigh-vein that is upon the hollow of the thigh" is likewise biblically prohibited in animals (Genesis 32:33). Both the inner sinew and the outer sinew, and their branches, must be excised. (Note: Most of the forbidden fat and the sinew of the thigh vein are found in the hindquarters of the animal. Since their removal is difficult and must be done by one who is highly qualified, the hindquarters are not used for kosher meat in most Jewish communities, except where meat is not readily obtainable, as in Israel and some European communities.)"
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Old 02-09-2011, 08:18 PM
 
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Kosher Meat and Poultry, and especially And You Shall Shecht ...And You shall Eat, may be of some help.
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Thanks for those links Walter.
Although I am not Jewish I will buy Kosher if I have a choice. I mentioned in an earlier post that I worked in a Beef Packinghouse during my college years. This was a licensed Kosher facility. In Nebraska we have a very good USDA inspection program, or at least it was when I was working in the business. The Rabbi's inspection adds another layer of safety to Kosher foods. I have NEVER heard of a food safety recall from a licensed Kosher plant. The USDA stamp PLUS the Kosher label is the ultimate if you are concerned about food safety. IMHO.

GL2
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Old 02-10-2011, 01:11 PM
 
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I have NEVER heard of a food safety recall from a licensed Kosher plant.
Well, at times, as per Kosher Food Alerts and Mislabeled Products, there are food safety recalls for certified kosher products.
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Old 02-10-2011, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Well, at times, as per Kosher Food Alerts and Mislabeled Products, there are food safety recalls for certified kosher products.
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I stand corrected. I have heard of it now. Of course I still prefer Kosher IF I have the choice.

GL2
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Old 02-11-2011, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Well, at times, as per Kosher Food Alerts and Mislabeled Products, there are food safety recalls for certified kosher products.
None of those are SAFETY issues. All relate to contamination with non-Kosher ingredients, but none are unsafe from any medical or public health standpoint, including the worms in fish products.
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Old 02-12-2011, 04:19 AM
 
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During my College years I worked in a beef packinghouse for several years. Our place was a licensed Kosher facility so a lot of product we handled was sent to major Jewish markets on the East Coast. Some of the items that we shipped to those markets were things like Sweetbreads, Brains,Tongues, Oxtails, Hearts, Livers, Briskets and of course the front quarters. I am not familiar with all the Kosher dietary rules but one thing I always wondered was why is it that the Hind Quarters (cuts like the Loin and Round) are not acceptable for Kosher BUT Oxtails were? After all an Oxtail is on the hind end of the critter not his nose.

BTW one of the Rabbis I worked with offered me a serving of Oxtail Soup that his wife had made for him and it was delicious. The same Rabbi told me in secret the hardest part of being Jewish was not being able to eat Bacon with Eggs. One reason I am glad I was not born Jewish.

GL2
Not every Jew keeps kosher.
According to this link, 21% do. The majority of these people are Orthodox or Conservative sects.

My husband, born and raised Reform Jewish, grew up eating bacon and eggs and still does today.

Kashrut (kosher) evolved in a convoluted manner, and remains complicated today. The rules (no milk and meat together) don't always make sense to outsiders, and the separate kitchen utensils routine looks laborious to me, but some thrive on such rituals.

As stated in the link, some people keep a kosher household, but will eat a bacon cheeseburger out at a restaurant.

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None of those are SAFETY issues. All relate to contamination with non-Kosher ingredients, but none are unsafe from any medical or public health standpoint, including the worms in fish products.
Listeria is not considered a health/safety problem?
Walter's link, if you scrolled down, also had a product with listeria.
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Old 02-12-2011, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Walter's link, if you scrolled down, also had a product with listeria.
I didn't scrutinize it carefully. But it was represented as a confirmation of food safety recalls for Kosher products, and I found that most of them did not fit that category.
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Old 02-12-2011, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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I seem to recall something about cuts that border the cows sciatic nerve are off limits. Anyone know anything about that?
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