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Old 03-31-2012, 08:32 AM
 
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Personally I always thought the leftovers that comprised pink slime were put into dog food.

So now I have 5 reasons to avoid ground beef: antibiotics, hormone treatments, ammonia treatment, the leftovers that comprise pink slime, and what the cattle are fed (corn instead of grass). And this doesnt take into account how environmentally destructive cattle ranching is compared to other sources of calories, e.g. in Belize the gov't has chosen cattle over the sacred-to-Mayans jaguar. Of course most of these go for regular beef too which is why I'll stick to organic eggplant and a slew of vegetarian options.
You do realize, don't you, that virgin sod is plowed under, native grasses destroyed, and an entire ecosystem upended, in order for you to nosh on your #$%#@! environmentally destructive eggplant?

 
Old 03-31-2012, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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You do realize, don't you, that virgin sod is plowed under, native grasses destroyed, and an entire ecosystem upended, in order for you to nosh on your #$%#@! environmentally destructive eggplant?
Not to mention, if everyone were to become vegetarian, we would be in direct competition with all of the wildlife, both animal and vegetative, for the land needed to grow fruits and vegetables to feed us all. That's something that's glossed over, if it's even thought of at all, by those advocating a vegetarian diet for everyone. (Never mind that some of us get sick as a dog on the most carefully controlled vegetarian diet because everyone is not identical and just like you physiologically, threatening as that idea might be to some.
 
Old 03-31-2012, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, Austin, Texas
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It takes more land to produce the same calories in meat compared to vegetables because not only do cattle utilize a lot of land but the corn raised to feed them also take a lot of acreage. There is also no feces to dispose of with eggplant versus, e.g. Virginia where they dump pig feces dump into various rivers.
 
Old 03-31-2012, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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And meat can be raised on lands that are unsuited for raising vegetables. It's not necessary to feed corn to cattle, by the way. That was more a government incentive thing back when the internal combustion engine took over and the farmers raising corn for horses that were no longer being used were facing economic disaster. About that time meat started being graded and lo and behold, corn-fed beef had the highest grade, go figure.

Manure can be (and is) composed and used to grow, guess what, vegetables, improving soil to grow even more vegetables and improving some soil that is not originally suited to it to without using chemical fertilizers.

Seems that it's all a system, animal and vegetable, herbivore, carnivore, and omnivore (that would be us), and the original design works pretty well until people decide they know better about how it SHOULD work and start mucking with it because we're so much better than everything else in creation.
 
Old 03-31-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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It takes more land to produce the same calories in meat compared to vegetables because not only do cattle utilize a lot of land but the corn raised to feed them also take a lot of acreage. There is also no feces to dispose of with eggplant versus, e.g. Virginia where they dump pig feces dump into various rivers.
First of all, it is ILLEGAL to dump manure into rivers, so that claim is 100% false.

Second, manure spread on soil is what non-nutty environmentalists call FERTILIZER. It's what helps grow your virgin eggplant.

Third, the idea that it takes more land to produce beef than anything else is a lie that was started by an agenda-driven talking head, and repeated ad nauseaum by uninformed people who want to believe it.


Please try again.
 
Old 03-31-2012, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Consumers used to eat quite a few things that weren't good just because they were uninformed.
Eating pure Pink Slime is probably not really all that bad for you.

The problem is that if you think you are getting ground beef - which is just
cow parts that aren't fit to be a steak pushed into small worm-sized cuts,
but you are getting compacted scrapings and crap that fell on the cutting
table and maybe the floor. If it raises the price, so be it.

Hey, just for Big George, we could stop calling it Pink Slime and, instead
call it Off-Red Bovine Spooge. That wouldn't be "slanderous" at all.

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Old 03-31-2012, 12:46 PM
 
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Eating pure Pink Slime is probably not really all that bad for you.

The problem is that if you think you are getting ground beef - which is just
cow parts that aren't fit to be a steak pushed into small worm-sized cuts,
but you are getting compacted scrapings and crap that fell on the cutting
table and maybe the floor. If it raises the price, so be it.

Hey, just for Big George, we could stop calling it Pink Slime and, instead
call it Off-Red Bovine Spooge. That wouldn't be "slanderous" at all.
Or we could just call it processed meat. That would be honest, of all things...
 
Old 03-31-2012, 01:14 PM
 
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Eating pure Pink Slime is probably not really all that bad for you.

The problem is that if you think you are getting ground beef - which is just
cow parts that aren't fit to be a steak pushed into small worm-sized cuts,
but you are getting compacted scrapings and crap that fell on the cutting
table and maybe the floor. If it raises the price, so be it.

Hey, just for Big George, we could stop calling it Pink Slime and, instead
call it Off-Red Bovine Spooge. That wouldn't be "slanderous" at all.
Or we could just call it processed meat. That would be honest, of all things...
 
Old 03-31-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Originally Posted by mortimer View Post
Eating pure Pink Slime is probably not really all that bad for you.

The problem is that if you think you are getting ground beef - which is just
cow parts that aren't fit to be a steak pushed into small worm-sized cuts,
but you are getting compacted scrapings and crap that fell on the cutting
table and maybe the floor. If it raises the price, so be it.

Hey, just for Big George, we could stop calling it Pink Slime and, instead
call it Off-Red Bovine Spooge. That wouldn't be "slanderous" at all.
Where do you get that it's meat that "fell on the cutting room floor"? Sounds remarkably like an urban legend to me - you know, one of the "Eeek! Warning, Will Robinson! Pass this on uninvestigated to everyone you know and their dog and their cat and their uncle's parakeet!" warnings that are sent around endlessly.

Near as I can tell, it's, like hamburger, meat that isn't fancy enough for steak or roasts, just taken from closer to the bone mechanically, put in a centrifuge to get the terrifying fat out of it so that consumers won't shriek and faint dead away, and then with a little of the fat added back in so that it will actually taste like something.
 
Old 03-31-2012, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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Who in the hell posts this kind of stuff here and why would anyone reply to it?
Irony, party of one, your table is ready.
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