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Old 04-06-2014, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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I know EXACTLY what Swai is, as well as Basa . I don't want Asian Swai when perfectly good US catfish is what I'm really looking for . When I buy local catfish I know exactly how they were raised. Can you say the same about that Swai you're so willing to have me eat?

You go and eat your Swai, but I'll continue to purchase a known product from local producers .

And, please - no more kindergarten lessons .
No need to get your knickers in a knot, or to have an attitude.
I merely pointed out that it IS in the catfish family.
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Old 04-06-2014, 03:54 PM
 
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I buy fish at a local fish market whole. I buy fish I'm familiar with, and personally don't like fresh water fish so that cuts out quite a few - - I've never had tilapia that I know of. At grocery stores I used to buy more - but I'm vaguely skeptical of what I'm getting. Used to buy frozen cod for fish stews but haven't looked at them lately. I did look at salmon yesterday and it was the first time I noticed the "color added" thing on them. Used to buy already breaded flounder filets frozen - but instead of them being packaged by the provider, most chains buy them in bulk, thaw and repackage them so - meh - I pass. Shrimp is harder but we don't have it often. I'd love to support domestic shrimp industry but seldom available.

Fish is great but demand creates opportunity for "creative" marketing & substitutions. I just don't want to pay for something I'm not getting.Fish Fraud | The House Committee on Natural Resources - Democrats - Ranking Member Peter DeFazio
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Old 04-06-2014, 04:44 PM
 
Location: the Permian Basin
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I only eat fish that I catch.

Problem solved.
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Old 04-06-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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I never purchase frozen meat. Purchase all seafood on ice, but not in ice.
is there such a thing as fresh fillets??


if the fishing boats are out at sea for a week to 10 days,,,they freeze/chill the fish on ice or a freezer (iqf)

fresh fish fillets only have a shelf-life of 3-4 days.. so, between the boat, the wholesaler, and retailer- or back of a truck.... and for you to be able to put in your fridge for a couple days....as one wholesaler said to me- good luck with that (trying to buy fresh fish fillets)



the only real way to have actual fresh fish is to meet the boat at the pier, or buy the whole fish and filet it yourself.. or catch the fish yourself..
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Old 04-06-2014, 05:00 PM
 
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The red color in salmon flesh (and flamingo feathers) comes from carotenes in their diet (shrimp and krill). I'm sure you've noticed how shrimp get that pink color when cooked.

Well, when salmon are raised in fish farms they have to receive the same carotenes that cause their flesh to be pink/red in the wild or they will have a grey/white flesh. This is done by introducing synthetic astaxanthin and canthaxanthin (carotenes) into their diet.

So... to make a long story short - the salmon isn't colored by adding dye to the flesh, it is colored by adding carotenes to the feed.
dirt is correct


and fresh tuna fillets,,,are a beautiful color red and are one of the best of all meats on the grill
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I despise that insipid slug of the fish world, Tilapia. As I have said before, it has no intrinsic flavor whatsoever and the texture is somewhere between firm tofu and tempeh.

We raise some excellent catfish here in the US, but I still see Swai being sold as a substitute for catfish.

In the sushi bars I'll never eat anything called "white fish" and I can't believe some sushi bars actually serve Tilapia by name. Since when is consuming raw freshwater fish a good idea?
We do have it about once a month because it gives us our fish and it not expenisve. I do not think it is totally tasteless, but I certainly do not put it at the top of the list of favorite fish.

Now, as for what the OP is saying, I have never thought I was buying Cod or something similar and ended up with Talapia or if I did I certainly didn't notice it. I was raised on fresh caught fish. Daddy loved to fish, we lived in So. Ca and I never even heard of frozen anything. Then we moved to NO Cal, the bay area and eventually Eureka: again, all fresh fish, Crab and Salmon for starters. From there we lived on the east coast: again fresh was all we had. Now, we live in the middle of the country: frozen is our only choice.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:40 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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It's a lot easier to live with when you catch your own. You know where it's been and what it is. How long it's been dead and how many times it hasn't been re-frozen.
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Old 04-06-2014, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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Uh... no - it's not very good. It's not even "kinda" good. It's a convenient protein source. You eat your tilapia and I'll just munch on a bucket of fried grasshoppers.
At least then you could avoid crap from China. Grasshoppers might be better for you straight from your backyard complete with pesticides than the crap swimming in tanks in China.
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Old 04-07-2014, 04:21 AM
 
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Tilapia is a garbage fish that is being imported as a cheap replacement for traditional fish which is becoming very expensive due to over fishing. I won't eat it.

In regards to purchasing frozen fish in the store. Look carefully at the package. If it contains Sodium Tripolyphosphate, it's a sign that it was cheaply processed. Frozen shellfish is often adulterated with it too. IMO, it's a sign of poor harvesting/processing and I stay away from it.

On the other hand, I think that it's generally OK to buy fish that is wild caught from most USA sources. The previous poster said something about the Gulf coast, but this is one place that would give me a bit of hesitation. Generally I think the most pristine fish will come from Alaska.
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Old 04-07-2014, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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I don't really mind tilapia. But based on the posts here I am assuming that it is the bologna of the fish world.
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