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Old 03-05-2015, 08:44 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Inventor of K-Cups regrets the idea - Mar. 4, 2015

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"I feel bad sometimes that I ever did it," John Sylvan told The Atlantic in an interview.
Why? Because the K-Cups are bad for the environment -- they are disposable and not recyclable.

Sylvan originally envisioned the cup-like pouches that brewed a single serving of coffee for offices, where people want different brews. But the technology caught on, and Keurig Green Mountain brewers are now on kitchen counters everywhere.

That means more and more K-Cups are being used -- and thrown in the trash.

Sylvan isn't in a position to do much about the problem. He sold the company for $50,000 in 1997, and it's now owned by Green Mountain, the brewing company.

"I told them how to improve it, but they don't want to listen," Sylvan said.

Sylvan and others have designed solutions, like reuseable K-Cups. He said he even tested his design "years ago, and it worked."

But Keurig has tried to block those cups from working in its machines. The company says it has a plan of its own and is "committed to making 100% of K-Cup packs recyclable by 2020."
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Old 03-05-2015, 09:30 AM
 
Location: South Central Texas
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It would seem they could easily make bags/pouches to fit in the reusable filters. A permanent cup could be built in as part of the machine. The overall ease and convenience of K-cups is what keeps the $$$$$$$ rolling in. So they'll be looking into keeping this advantage while aiming for the other "green" goal. If in fact the present owners are actually interested in Sylvan's idea.
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Old 03-05-2015, 09:38 AM
 
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It would seem they could easily make bags to fit in the reusable filters. The overall ease and convenience of K-cups is what keeps the $$$$$$$ rolling in. So they'll be looking into keeping this advantage while aiming for the other "green" goal. If in fact the present owners are actually interested in Sylvan's idea.

They have designed the 2nd generation pods in a manner to insure that you cannot use the 1st generation pods. You can be assured that they will continue to reconfigure the pods on new generation products in such a way that the patent NEVER expires.

They have no interest in recyclables as they make all of their money selling what is charitably $0.05 worth of coffee for $0.45+.

By the way, some of the vending Keurig machines actually "capture" the used pod in a container so that the folks in the office lose their "reusable" pods.
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Old 03-05-2015, 09:39 AM
 
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I wasn't thrilled when my husband bought a machine for a number of reasons - environmental, they aren't really cost effective, took up counter space. Plus I'm concerned about how long water sits in the system (germs)

The Best Gourmet Coffee From a Family Coffee Company

Anyway, I'd recommend San Francisco Bay coffee. We by the big box at costco but they sell smaller and different flavors thru their website. The bottom part of the cup is like coffee filter material, the whole thing is 97% biodegradable.

We gave various refillable cups a go but found them more work than just brewing a half or quarter pot in the drip maker.....
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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I really don't get those things. They're huge, expensive, need cleaning and potentially maintenance. Give me a simple over-the-cup cone filter system or a French press any day. Down with senseless gadgetry!
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:25 AM
 
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I really don't get those things. They're huge, expensive, need cleaning and potentially maintenance. Give me a simple over-the-cup cone filter system or a French press any day. Down with senseless gadgetry!
Im with you. The husband was really hot to get one so I gave in..... What i really dont get is the tea and coco k-cups - how is that any easier than simple bagged tea?
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:46 AM
 
Location: South Central Texas
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They have designed the 2nd generation pods in a manner to insure that you cannot use the 1st generation pods. You can be assured that they will continue to reconfigure the pods on new generation products in such a way that the patent NEVER expires.

They have no interest in recyclables as they make all of their money selling what is charitably $0.05 worth of coffee for $0.45+.

By the way, some of the vending Keurig machines actually "capture" the used pod in a container so that the folks in the office lose their "reusable" pods.
Of course. I can see the inventor who got a measly $50,000 for his invention having remorse for selling and/or creating this monster. Proprietary lock-in on sales is the name of the game. It's not likely the present owners will strive for recyclables over profits.

Our machines are at least 4 years old. It's doubtful we would have ever purchased them. They were gifts to my wife and BIL as caretakers of sorts to a former neighbors mother. We did purchase a single cup version for our boys. I figure a cup of coffee costs about 60 cent on up. We use only distilled water to lengthen the life of the machine. I can't see those wasting money at Starbucks but they do. So there are plenty willing to pay for the convenience of whatever perceived novelty of such things.

They do spoil those who have them though and the machines do hold up well.
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:49 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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Best thing I ever did for my health, my waistline, and the environment was to make tap water poured into a glass from the kitchen cabinet my drink of choice.
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:32 AM
 
Location: USA
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Best thing I ever did for my health, my waistline, and the environment was to make tap water poured into a glass from the kitchen cabinet my drink of choice.
coffee isn't fattening if you drink it black.


To the topic: I don't buy those disposable cups. Expensive and contributes to the landfill. I use the washable cup to put the grounds in to make a hot cup of coffee.
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:32 AM
 
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I was just shopping for a small coffee maker this morning. Looked at the keurig ones, but decided on a MUCH less expensive machine that just takes coffee grounds. One woman suggested getting a reusable tea/coffee sack (she made hers from muslin, but they do sell them as well) and use it. Easy clean up, can be used forever and totally biodegradable.
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