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Old 06-14-2014, 11:11 AM
 
Location: North Oakland
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There's been a TJ's where I live for ten years or so, but I never really liked shopping there, especially for produce. Until recently, you couldn't buy a single green pepper, only two, wrapped in plastic like cuts of beef.

But this year I discovered the best coffee I may ever have drunk, TJ's Cafe Pajaro. It comes in a dark blue and green cardboard canister with a parrot on it ("pajaro" is Spanish for "parrot"). Anyway, it's a dark roast with a lot of body and a chocolatey flavor, and it's the only coffee I want to drink. It's $7.99 for 13 oz., and is my gateway drug, as it were, to buying other TJ's products, as I now find myself making special trips there.

I think I'm going to try the ginger snaps and the mandarin orange chicken.

Also, a friend brought over a loaf of sourdough bread and the organic raspberry preserves. Both were delicious, and no mold formed on the bread, which I ate over a three- or four-day period.
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Old 06-14-2014, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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You mean other than Kroger's and Safeway?

I do NOT shop at Trader Joe's personally as their prices are HIGHER than my local independents for quality that is sadly lacking in their Midwestern stores, especially in the fresh food, deli, dairy, and bakery areas where everything is pretty much shipped in from the Boston area.
Hate to tell you this, but Kroger's and Safeway aren't national either.

Here we have WinCo, Albertson's and Fred Meyer. FM is owned by Kroger, but run as a separate entity. They are a combination grocery and big box retailer (think Wal-Mart Supercenters or Super Target) and carry some of the Kroger house brand items as low-cost alternatives to name-brand food, but that's about it. Here TJ's is much cheaper than the local independents, which mainly suffer from supply-chain issues because Boise is an isolated metro area.

Again, different locations means different experiences.

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Old 06-14-2014, 01:34 PM
 
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Hate to tell you this, but Kroger's and Safeway aren't national either.

Here we have WinCo, Albertson's and Fred Meyer. FM is owned by Kroger, but run as a separate entity. They are a combination grocery and big box retailer (think Wal-Mart Supercenters or Super Target) and carry some of the Kroger house brand items as low-cost alternatives to name-brand food, but that's about it. Here TJ's is much cheaper than the local independents, which mainly suffer from supply-chain issues because Boise is an isolated metro area.

Again, different locations means different experiences.


From the Kroger's website:

Food stores are our primary business and account for approximately 94% of total company sales. Our convenience and jewelry stores and manufacturing facilities contribute the remainder of total sales. The information below is current as of March 6, 2014.
  • We operate 2,640 grocery retail stores in 34 states under nearly two dozen banners. Our formats include supermarkets, price-impact warehouse stores, and multi-department stores, which are similar to supercenters, but offer an expanded variety of national brand appeal and general merchandise. State by state facts can be seen here.
  • Kroger also operates 786 convenience stores under six banners in 19 states. Our C-stores provide valuable synergies for the rapid expansion of our supermarket fuel centers.


I would say that representation in 34 states represents a NATIONAL chain. At least the industry thinks so.




Fred Meyers is a Kroger brand. Kroger's is smart enough NOT to interfere with a winning formula, unlike Safeway and Albertsons. And they are also smart enough to tailor their brands to the markets (low to high) that they serve.


Krogers, by the way, is represented in more states than Trader Joes or Target.
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Old 06-14-2014, 05:06 PM
 
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Krogers, by the way, is represented in more states than Trader Joes or Target.
Target is in 49 states and Washington DC.
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Old 06-14-2014, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Krogers, by the way, is represented in more states than Trader Joe's or Target.
Trader Joe's is in 39 states and DC. Only 17 states have branded Kroger's, though more states have chains under the Kroger brand.

So, nope, Kroger's is represented in less states than both. And, as my parents put it, why go to Kroger when you have Publix? (I have neither in my region.)


But on topic - Trader Joe's is cheaper than my local grocery stores. Their frozen veggies cost roughly the same but are so much fresher tasting. TJ's is great for a young, single person because they have so many meal starters that keep. If I wanted to replicate some of the things I get from TJ's myself, it would cost much more.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Hate to tell you this, but Kroger's and Safeway aren't national either.

Here we have WinCo, Albertson's and Fred Meyer. FM is owned by Kroger, but run as a separate entity. They are a combination grocery and big box retailer (think Wal-Mart Supercenters or Super Target) and carry some of the Kroger house brand items as low-cost alternatives to name-brand food, but that's about it. Here TJ's is much cheaper than the local independents, which mainly suffer from supply-chain issues because Boise is an isolated metro area.

Again, different locations means different experiences.
I think you are mistaking national chains for one everywhere. I don't know, for sure about Safeway, I think they are national, and I know Krogers is considered a national chain. That does not mean they have one in every city or state. We do not have either of them in AR.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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From the Kroger's website:

Food stores are our primary business and account for approximately 94% of total company sales. Our convenience and jewelry stores and manufacturing facilities contribute the remainder of total sales. The information below is current as of March 6, 2014.
  • We operate 2,640 grocery retail stores in 34 states under nearly two dozen banners. Our formats include supermarkets, price-impact warehouse stores, and multi-department stores, which are similar to supercenters, but offer an expanded variety of national brand appeal and general merchandise. State by state facts can be seen here.
  • Kroger also operates 786 convenience stores under six banners in 19 states. Our C-stores provide valuable synergies for the rapid expansion of our supermarket fuel centers.


I would say that representation in 34 states represents a NATIONAL chain. At least the industry thinks so.




Fred Meyers is a Kroger brand. Kroger's is smart enough NOT to interfere with a winning formula, unlike Safeway and Albertsons. And they are also smart enough to tailor their brands to the markets (low to high) that they serve.


Krogers, by the way, is represented in more states than Trader Joes or Target.
Agree with you: national chain doesn't mean in every state. Think regional chains, is what some are mistaking for national: Tom Thumb in Texas (regional) Giant in the mid Atlantic states (regional) Publux in the south (regional) Krogers, Albersons, Safeway, national companies.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:37 AM
 
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Agree with you: national chain doesn't mean in every state. Think regional chains, is what some are mistaking for national: Tom Thumb in Texas (regional) Giant in the mid Atlantic states (regional) Publux in the south (regional) Krogers, Albersons, Safeway, national companies.
I would consider Albertsons (that is, stores under the Albertsons brand) to be to be primarily western. I think there may be some in Florida, but IIRC, that's the only state east of the Mississippi.
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Old 06-15-2014, 01:35 PM
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Location: Coastal New Jersey
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I actually spend less on groceries at TJ's. Prices on most items are less than other grocery stores in the area.
I agree. I haven't bought meat at T.J.'s, but most staples are cheaper there.
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Old 06-15-2014, 01:41 PM
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Location: Coastal New Jersey
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I love Wegmans supermarket. It blows TJ and WF out of the water. Everything they have is just as good or better and cheaper. They also have "regular" stuff your neighborhood grocery store has. It's like if they combined TJ and the local store into one. Everything has a section too. Kosher has a counter, seafood, bakery, cheese, deli, salads, Chinese, Indian, etc.
Oh yeah, now Wegman's is the best! I get to Trader Joe's more often because it's five minutes from home as opposed to Wegman's fifteen.
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