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Old 06-06-2014, 04:16 PM
 
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I should check the labels a little more closely as i never knew the chicken in my local grocery could have been processed in China.
this is the law- a grocery store HAS to place a sign over the fresh/raw chicken (pork and beef too) for country of origin labeling, or on the package itself

I have never seen any Chinese chicken in any supermarket in the northeast

the state inspectors are in the grocery stores many times a year to make sure grocery stores are complying with country of origin laws/signage
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Old 06-06-2014, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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it's not the hate of the american worker so much as the bottom line for the corporations and their stock holders. Foreigners will work for a pittance of what American workers will and even with shipping costs it is cheaper to send raw materials (even those made here) overseas to be assembled by foreign workers. And it doesn't look like that will chance anytime soon. Not as long as there is Walmart and Target and Ikea and other retailers who do huge business in cheaply made merchandise. And of course those who insist on buying those cheaply made items are just making the cycle go round and round. They are the ones suffering from lack of American jobs.
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Old 06-06-2014, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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this is the law- a grocery store HAS to place a sign over the fresh/raw chicken (pork and beef too) for country of origin labeling, or on the package itself

I have never seen any Chinese chicken in any supermarket in the northeast
Country of origin has nothing to do with where it is processed. What we are saying is that pigs, chickens, beef can be raised here but processed elsewhere and nobody is any wiser. That is how I understand it. Read the links. Quietyly announced Friday right before the long weekend.

"Just before the start of the long holiday weekend last Friday, the U.S. Department of Agriculture quietly announced that it was ending a ban on processed chicken imports from China. The kicker: These products can now be sold in the U.S. without a country-of-origin label."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/201...e-hard-to-know
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Old 06-06-2014, 04:24 PM
 
Location: South Central Texas
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Looking at the glut of Chinese product in your local super market your likely to starve to death if you cut out the Chinese or east Asian stuff.stuff.. Most of the canned stuff now comes from Asia,almost all frozen seafood and many of the vegetables,
If my wife or daughter is doing the buying we could be eating Chinese through some frozen products. They'd have to sneak it passed me. Canned tuna probably, at some point before i realized it had all turned to mush unless you paid the new 3-400 % markup. Point is I only need the info it's from China and I absolutely would not eat it. In fact I might threaten someone that fed it to me.
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Old 06-06-2014, 04:27 PM
 
Location: SacTown
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Plastic doesn't digest well
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Old 06-06-2014, 05:24 PM
 
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Country of origin has nothing to do with where it is processed. What we are saying is that pigs, chickens, beef can be raised here but processed elsewhere and nobody is any wiser. That is how I understand it. Read the links. Quietyly announced Friday right before the long weekend.

"Just before the start of the long holiday weekend last Friday, the U.S. Department of Agriculture quietly announced that it was ending a ban on processed chicken imports from China. The kicker: These products can now be sold in the U.S. without a country-of-origin label."
Was Your Chicken Nugget Made In China? It'll Soon Be Hard To Know : The Salt : NPR

country of origin laws now include BORN, Raised, and Harvested disclosures
i'm talking FRESH chicken, pork and beef in a grocery store

if it is cooked- then the country of origin laws don't apply -like a pre cooked nugget

IF the usda did this- relaxed the laws, that doesn't mean you will see Chinese chickens in the stores
you will never see fresh Chinese chicken in my stores- I can guarantee that

just because they relaxed a law, doesn't mean - its automatic, it will be in the stores

I deal with frantic alarmist customers daily...
this crap just stirs em up, on the other hand, let the supermarkets carry the Chinese chicken
I will not
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Old 06-06-2014, 05:30 PM
 
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uhh.... haven't you heard about the massive salmonella contamination in Foster Farm's processing centers? They're California-grown, raised & prepped... just to show how pathogenic bacteria knows no national boundaries. I've even heard that small-flock boutique farm-raised poultry from local SoCal farms harbor much higher levels of harmful bacteria than their peers in other areas of the country. I think it has to do with our mild climate & soil conditions.
cook your chicken to 165-180 f it will kill the bacteria
plain and simple..

just like burgers -cook to 160 f you wont have to worry about e-coli
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Old 06-06-2014, 05:55 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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If Dr. Oz is talking about it, then it's probably hyperbolic horsepucky and nonsense. Dr. Oz is a paid shill for whatever company wants him to push snake-oil for him that day. Sounds like the Poultry Growers of America or some political organic lobby group is covering the cost of his Bentley in this episode.

Of course, I -would- be concerned if my chicken pieces came from China. However, pretty sure they're not. First of all, because it's Dr. Oz claiming that they are, and he's full of whatever someone is paying him to be full of. In this case, it's chicken droppings. Second, because Perdue has its USA chickens grown and slaughtered right here in the USA, and that's usually the brand of chicken I buy.
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Originally Posted by mainebrokerman View Post
this is the law- a grocery store HAS to place a sign over the fresh/raw chicken (pork and beef too) for country of origin labeling, or on the package itself

I have never seen any Chinese chicken in any supermarket in the northeast

the state inspectors are in the grocery stores many times a year to make sure grocery stores are complying with country of origin laws/signage
I'm no Dr. Oz fan either BUT - it is now legal to ship our chicken over to China for processing and then shipped back here.

This is done under the well-known brand name and there is nothing to alert the consumer to the fact that the chicken was processed in China.

Since their food safety standards are well behind ours - it certainly is a concern to a lot of people.
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Old 06-06-2014, 06:25 PM
 
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I will not believe that live chickens are shipped to China from the US for processing.

I don't believe it and Dr OZ is the last person I consider an authority on anything !
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Old 06-06-2014, 06:59 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Right now? Probably not--I am not a big fan of items from China. 50 years from now? Maybe (assuming that I will still be alive at that point in time).
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