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Old 07-09-2014, 06:58 PM
 
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Good job. The test they give on the cooking competition shows is scallops!

That being said, I like to get the whole fish from the fish monger (I live in Florida) and have him clean it but leave the head on. Then I stuff it and surround it with veggies, a little oil in a foil package. OR just by itself on the grill or in a basket or something. Like a snapper.

Since you seem like you enjoy challenging yourself....

Because you need to learn how to remove the bones without choking your guests or caveat emptor.

Example:

Grilled whole red snapper - I Love Meat

Grilled Whole Red Snapper Recipe - Grace Parisi | Food & Wine

Sauces/toppings are an entirely different matter than the actual fish.

I don't use lemon on my fish when I'm cooking it like lots of recipes state. I make mine the Greek way with just some olive oil and aromatics and add lemon at the table. Also octopus, squid, baby smelts you can eat the entire thing including the head...

I used to hang my octopus on the garage door tracks LOL But I'm guessing you can find it frozen and not have to do that.

Mastering A Sea Monster: From Greece, A Lesson In Grilling Octopus : The Salt : NPR

Crispy-Fried Atherina (Smelts) - Kalofagas - Greek Food & Beyond - Kalofagas - Greek Food & Beyond

Appetizers | Grilled Smelts Recipe | Recipe4Living

Probably a bunch of youTube videos on this subject.

A whole fish makes a great presentation especially for a group, and you can easily do one in the oven as well.
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Old 07-09-2014, 08:17 PM
 
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Forget all the "Gourmet" blah blah, I'd rather cook regular real food, eat regular real food and serve my guests regular real food.
All this sounds like "real" food to me. So far haven't seen mention of "foam" or "air" which IMO are quite silly. All I see is protein and sauce. Quite "real", IMO.

I'm taking your comment to mean "plain" instead of "real".

To the OP, for a long time (decades!) I didn't care for salmon. But now I do (always did like steak). So every now and then, give it a try. Tastes change over time.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:34 PM
 
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All this sounds like "real" food to me. So far haven't seen mention of "foam" or "air" which IMO are quite silly. All I see is protein and sauce. Quite "real", IMO.

I'm taking your comment to mean "plain" instead of "real".

To the OP, for a long time (decades!) I didn't care for salmon. But now I do (always did like steak). So every now and then, give it a try. Tastes change over time.
Have you tried maple-baked salmon, in a marinade of maple syrup, soy sauce, fresh ginger and garlic?
Oh My God!
Even people who don't particularly like fish, love it.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Forget all the "Gourmet" blah blah, I'd rather cook regular real food, eat regular real food and serve my guests regular real food.

Original Poster: Your attempts sound great even though I do not eat any type of seafood.
Good luck with your future dishes and don't be too hard on yourself when something doesn't turn out quite right.
Everyone who cooks has had more than one disaster and in the end sometimes you just have to order pizza.
We ARE talking about real food. Like the above poster said....you're talking about plain food. Meat and potato food. Thursday is meatloaf night food, with a smear of ketchup on top. Food for those who have no sense of curiousity or adventure.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:42 PM
 
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Have you tried maple-baked salmon, in a marinade of maple syrup, soy sauce, fresh ginger and garlic?
Oh My God!
Even people who don't particularly like fish, love it.
Mmmm... that sounds really good. I like salmon, but haven't had any in a while. I might have to try making this sometime soon.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Some of us just really hate salmon... I've had it all kinds of "delicious" ways, and I always hate it. I WANT to like it, but no, just no.

I mainly only eat shellfish, when it comes to seafood though.
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:06 PM
 
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Mmmm... that sounds really good. I like salmon, but haven't had any in a while. I might have to try making this sometime soon.
You'll keep making it over and over. Easiest thing in the world. That's it...that's the whole recipe. Mix up the four ingredients in any quantity you like, let the salmon sit in it, in an ovenproof dish, then slide the whole thing into the oven until it's flakey. It's sweet and spicy, like a teriyaki sauce.
It tastes fancy and exotic, but isn't.
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Try to make chermoula. It is amazing in seafood. Google the recipe. Also chimichurri works well in a heartier fish and is easy to make, but tastes amazing.

I have a really good Harissa spice blend I like to use on salmon and chicken. Would be good on halibut or similar.

I made a killer marinade with red miso, siracha and a little bit of yuzu. The flavor profile was amazing I used it on chicken. Would be perfect on the grill.

I made a yummy salad with watermelon, strawberry, basil-cayenne syrup. Make a simple syrup infused with the 2 ingredients. Then add some with the fruit, lime juice and finish with some salt. It was super yummy.

That's all I have right now top of mind.
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:15 PM
 
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All this sounds like "real" food to me. So far haven't seen mention of "foam" or "air" which IMO are quite silly. All I see is protein and sauce. Quite "real", IMO.

I'm taking your comment to mean "plain" instead of "real".

To the OP, for a long time (decades!) I didn't care for salmon. But now I do (always did like steak). So every now and then, give it a try. Tastes change over time.
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We ARE talking about real food. Like the above poster said....you're talking about plain food. Meat and potato food. Thursday is meatloaf night food, with a smear of ketchup on top. Food for those who have no sense of curiousity or adventure.

I am not talking about "plain" food and I would never ruin a perfectly good meatloaf with a smear of Catsup on top and Thursdays is NOT meatloaf night. Not that it is any of your concern but I do not make specific meals on specific nights and I rarely make a meatloaf anyway.

I am talking about real food, you know homemade pasta, homemade pasta sauce, homemade butter, homemade whipping cream, homemade mayo, homemade Alfredo Sauce. Dessert that does not come out of a box.
Fresh herbs, fresh vegetables, as in nothing processed, packaged, dated, boxed or has to be covered in some sort of breading, condiment or sauce to give it flavor.

I doubt you will ever understand what I mean though so carry on and enjoy you "gourmet" whatever you want to call it.
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Old 07-10-2014, 03:06 AM
 
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I am not talking about "plain" food and I would never ruin a perfectly good meatloaf with a smear of Catsup on top and Thursdays is NOT meatloaf night. Not that it is any of your concern but I do not make specific meals on specific nights and I rarely make a meatloaf anyway.

I am talking about real food, you know homemade pasta, homemade pasta sauce, homemade butter, homemade whipping cream, homemade mayo, homemade Alfredo Sauce. Dessert that does not come out of a box.
Fresh herbs, fresh vegetables, as in nothing processed, packaged, dated, boxed or has to be covered in some sort of breading, condiment or sauce to give it flavor.

I doubt you will ever understand what I mean though so carry on and enjoy you "gourmet" whatever you want to call it.
Then what's your issue? I didn't see anything in the OP's two meals that wasn't homemade, unless you have an issue with soy sauce, which eliminates cuisines eaten by a third of the world. Then again, you could plant some soy and ferment your own.

I certainly don't view a well-prepared sauce on a good piece of protein to be the same as "has to be covered in some sauce to give it flavor", nor do many good cooks I know. I see it as complementary. I like a grilled chicken thigh with simple s&p seasoning. I also like a grilled chicken thigh with a number of homemade rubs and marinades. Variety is the spice of life, y'know?

Of your list of "homemade" stuff, other than butter, I make those things myself and know a number of others who do as well. I do it because I like to make those items as they taste better and are worth the time (I don't feel butter is worth the effort). But that doesn't stop me from appreciating what the OP is trying to do or using the term "gourmet" as some derogatory slur.

There are a whole lot of people who do their own canning and have wonderful recipes they love to share. Perhaps being supportive of the wonders of homemade/DIY sauces, etc. and sharing what gives you pleasure might work a bit better than taking the moral superiority/condemnation route? After all, the OP seems to want to give many things a try.
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