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Old 09-16-2014, 02:04 PM
 
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Your "arguments" get more and more ridiculous as this thread goes on. Go read a sociology book and come back.
No, how about you get past second grade and come back?

 
Old 09-16-2014, 02:06 PM
 
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But of course there will always be excuses as to why something can't be done.
That's correct. If you listen to people like her, you'd be convinced that these people are invalids and essentially completely helpless and totally dependent on you. As I said earlier in this thread, it's quite incredible how we went for millennia and then suddenly around 1990 or thereabouts apparently close to 200 million people became unable to feed, clothe, or in any way sustain themselves in any way without total assistance.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 02:12 PM
 
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I don't think it has been mentioned yet, but in many parts of the country there is an abundance of food growing outside. Lots of it is in parks, greenways, overhanging sidewalks and other public places. I look forward to this food more than anything else because it is perfectly ripened.

So far this year (and only counting the stuff I got at least a few pounds of), I've found pecans, chestnuts, walnuts, mulberries, blackberries, raspberries, apples, figs, persimmons, peaches, thimbleberries and paw paws. If I was hungry (or malnourished) I'd probably be willing to go for wild onions, passion flower fruit, dandelions and hickory nuts which are all abundant. I'd probably go for Polkweed and acorns if that's what I had to do to avoid SNAP.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 02:13 PM
 
Location: SC
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The rule of thumb for me is: if you're busy turning down rice and potatoes because they're too high in carbs, you're too rich to be receiving food and come back to me when you've learned not to be so picky. And a poor person doesn't need to be drinking tea, that's a luxury item. Water is fine for drinking, and not bottled water. There's water that comes from your tap.
Why is rice such a great food when I pay $15.00 for a rice plate at my local Asian restaurant but ifIconsider donating 20 lbs to my local food pantry, people suddenly scream, "omg carbs!"

There are entire cultures that have been raised on a primarily rice and cheap whole foods diet for thousands upon thousands of years with a zero obesity rate. No one got fat on rice before the 1990s when computers, and video games turned an entire culture of children sedentary. Rice has nothing to do with it; exercise and eating more calories than you burn off does.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 02:14 PM
 
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I don't think it has been mentioned yet, but in many parts of the country there is an abundance of food growing outside. Lots of it is in parks, greenways, overhanging sidewalks and other public places. I look forward to this food more than anything else because it is perfectly ripened.

So far this year (and only counting the stuff I got at least a few pounds of), I've found pecans, chestnuts, walnuts, mulberries, blackberries, raspberries, apples, figs, persimmons, peaches, thimbleberries and paw paws. If I was hungry (or malnourished) I'd probably be willing to go for wild onions, passion flower fruit, dandelions and hickory nuts which are all abundant. I'd probably go for Polkweed and acorns if that's what I had to do to avoid SNAP.
Foraging hasn't been mentioned, although it's valid, but someone did say that people should grow food if they're that poor. Probably that would be more realistic than having millions of people forage in the same general area, although on an individual scale it would certainly work.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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There are entire cultures that have been raised on a primarily rice and cheap whole foods diet for thousands upon thousands of years with a zero obesity rate. No one got fat on rice before the 1990s when computers, and video games turned an entire culture of children sedentary. Rice has nothing to do with it; exercise and eating more calories than you burn off does.
It's because people who are "the highly educated ignorant" have perpetuated a notion about how obesity is due to white bread or rice or pasta. They're terribly confused about life and have a lot of time to think about their confusion. That's why they will, on one day, come up with some theory about how we need to be eating more olive oil like Mediterranean cultures, and then the next day, say that pasta is bad for us, which Mediterranean cultures eat. Or they'll say that we've ignored Eastern diets that allow them to live longer lives, but then turn around and say that white rice that the same people eat is deadly poison.

Meanwhile, like I said, everyone else in the world just eats their food and lives their lives. It's pretty incredible what a lot of free time will lead to.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 03:27 PM
 
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Roadkill
Are you joking?
deer and moose get hit in the roads, less people hunting means more deer in the roads..

so, the person who hits the animal, gets first refusal of keeping it- if they don't want it ., a warden may/will bring the dead critter to a local butcher to cut it up for a food bank/soup kitchen
 
Old 09-16-2014, 03:42 PM
 
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I don't think it has been mentioned yet, but in many parts of the country there is an abundance of food growing outside. Lots of it is in parks, greenways, overhanging sidewalks and other public places. I look forward to this food more than anything else because it is perfectly ripened.

So far this year (and only counting the stuff I got at least a few pounds of), I've found pecans, chestnuts, walnuts, mulberries, blackberries, raspberries, apples, figs, persimmons, peaches, thimbleberries and paw paws. If I was hungry (or malnourished) I'd probably be willing to go for wild onions, passion flower fruit, dandelions and hickory nuts which are all abundant. I'd probably go for Polkweed and acorns if that's what I had to do to avoid SNAP.

good post - I agree, many folks could forage for local food that grows wild- combine this with open access fishing, game birds and wild game
if I were hungry and had a family to feed, id be trapping and hunting , and foraging

childhood friends use to go hunting after school and see what they could shoot for dinner,,,often it was a rabbit, or game birds,,and fishing, they were very good fishermen!
 
Old 09-16-2014, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Banana Republic, LA
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I just added up the cost of one of my favorite basic meals, lentils and rice, and I can make about six servings for less than a dollar a serving. This is far cheaper than any fast food meal. And the best part is that it freezes well; I eat a couple servings and freeze the next few. But it takes knowing how to cook and being able to shop at the local ethnic (Pakistani owned) grocery. Any poor person could do the same with regular beans and rice from the local store for not too much more. You can make the same meal with ground beef but according to my calculations it will about double the cost, and adds additional time and effort to cook.

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Old 09-16-2014, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Islip,NY
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I think it depends on what you buy but you can certainly eat healthy cheap.
I agree. I am not poor but middle class and there are times I would like to eat fresh seafood 2 times a week but can't afford it because it's so expensive. I refuse to pay $18.99 a pound for wild salmon.
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