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Old 11-17-2011, 08:20 AM
 
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There's a ton of milk in the fridge at work, which gets replenished every day to keep the denizens happy. I mostly make my coffee with skimmed milk and the last three days I've been tasting undisturbed whole milk, with all the fat in it.
Skimmed milk has it's place on cereal, but there's nothing like whole milk in coffee. I think coffee with skimmed milk looks sort of gray and tastes thin. The little bit of milk you put in coffee isn't going to hurt you. Enjoy it.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL (Northside)
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I drink fat free to 2 percent milk.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:16 PM
 
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Default Dr. Oz says skim milk is most fattening

Who am I suppose to believe? Now Oz claims skim milk is more fattening than whole milk. How do you react to this news?
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:20 PM
 
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Who am I suppose to believe? Now Oz claims skim milk is more fattening than whole milk. How do you react to this news?
What is his rationale?
Is he referring in some way to more milk sugars being present?
Is he saying the lack of cream forces quicker digestion?

Please explain what he said or else this makes no sense.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Volcano
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Who am I suppose to believe? Now Oz claims skim milk is more fattening than whole milk. How do you react to this news?
This one has been going around for more than a year. His claim is that added sugar makes skim milk more fattening.

Read the labels and compare for yourself.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:34 PM
 
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I've been going by the theory that skim milk is no healthier or less healthy than whole milk. In many countries, buffalo milk is the standard and the United States drinks the most skim milk out of any country. However, we're the fattest.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:57 PM
 
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I used to drink lots of skimmed milk, for years. I thought it was the healthiest thing to drink. Gradually, I developed a food sensitivity and because I had no idea of where my symptoms were coming from and continued, my body started to react to other foods as well.

I went to several specialists and everyone had a theory of what was wrong according to his specialty, and a mode of treatment. One even wanted to operate.

I finally went to the Atkins Center in NY (now defunct). He tested me and removed all food items that I was reacting to, dairy being the main culprit. In two weeks I felt so much better that, if he had not prescribed just vitamins which I purchased independently, I would have sworn that I was on some kind of uppers.

Milk is generally not needed by adults of any animals.

Though unsweetened soy milk is generally used, I now can have dairy with the fat still in it without reacting, so I have cheeses and sometimes cream and milk.

I was once so bad that I could not have even a slice of pound cake because I would react to the milk in the cake.

Funny, I was born on a farm and was constantly constipated as a child. They knew little of milk sensitivity problems then.
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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How much milk are we talking about here.
Milk Skim Versus Milk Whole - Calorie, Fat, Protein, Fiber Information

Woah, skim milk has 2 grams more sugar. That like 8 or 9 more calories per 8 oz glass from sugar. A teaspon of sugar is 15 calories, I think. So you are getting like ~1/2 teaspon more sugar that in regular milk.

And save 56 calories from fat. Or to put it more honestly, you're not eating ~1/2 a pat of butter with your milk.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:00 AM
 
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Nutrition, weight maintenance, and health are far more complex than calories in and out and counting fat grams. There is a reason that in controlled settings, different people have different results even when they are subjected to identical diet and exercise regimens. I know that as my daughter's pediatrician had us progressively lower the fat content of the milk we fed her, her excess weight increased exponentially. When she was getting full milk, she was exactly right for her height. By the time she was on skim milk, she couldn't fit in her clothes unless it had an elastic waistband. When we cut out milk all together and switched to full fat cheeses and milk, her waist went right back down to normal.

It's more important to cut out non food items from our diet (not just all the artificial ingredients, but also things like cellulose which was never intended for human consumption) and then listen to our bodies as we experiment with different real foods. There is probably a good reason we all have foods we avoid - our bodies reject them.

Few docs today even want to get specific about what we should be eating, because most of them have little training in diet as compared to all the other coursework they have to do. Even trained professionals admit that they don't know why some things just don't work the same way for different people. Even worse, they will assume that someone is lying or "not trying hard enough'.

Anything that is "fat free" which is supposed to have fat, well, something has to replace that volume of fat being removed. It is typically more sugar. Think about what putting sugar in your car's gas tank does to the engine.

Ok, rant over.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Who am I suppose to believe? Now Oz claims skim milk is more fattening than whole milk. How do you react to this news?
Well for me and I think I am in the minority: I pay little attention to what DR Oz says. I don't know why but I just think of him as another celebrity. I really do not like him....

Now, maybe he was saying, when you take one thing out you add another. This has always been my thoughts: if you take fat out of something, you have add something else, usually it is sodium or sugar...
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