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Old 07-15-2016, 01:21 PM
 
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Great topic. I'm new to it, so don't totally understand what I'm reading.


Do CA EVOOs containing "Mission Oil" say so on their labels?


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_olive
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Old 07-15-2016, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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no need to waste money testing it with a lab. have your husband take a shot of olive oil, gargle in the back of the mouth, if it doesn't have a strong peppery, spicy sensation, there's no phenol, which means it's fake...
Wrong. Olive oil from the Koroneiki cultivar has a very high level of polyphenols. However, it is also very mild.

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Old 07-15-2016, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Phila
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^^^ Good suggestion but only one problem, you normally can't taste it till you buy it and open the bottle. If it's a place that let's you sample it before buying then more than likely they would not be trying to sell fake oil.
Ha ha...my thoughts exactly. I saw the 60 min show too. Unbelievable. I had not idea.

A Taste of olive does that. It's real. And real expensive, but if you need the real deal check them out. They have balsamic vinegars too. There's one in Chestnut Hill...and probably elsewhere. I see your in TX..probably can mail order...or nevermind
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Old 07-15-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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The "fake" olive oils are generally olive oil diluted with cheaper oils not. They still contain olive oil and nobody on earth is going to be able to simply taste it and determine if it's 100% pure olive oil or olive oil mixed with vegetable oil. The oils that they are using to dilute it are generally tasteless and odorless so the only flavor that is going to come through is the olive oil[/quot

Why pay the higher price for Olive oil if it's diluted with lesser quality vegetable oils? That, plus the fact that many vegetable oils are already rancid as they sit on the store shelves. You can't smell the rancidity because the bottlers add perfumes to fool you.

Lastly, when you consume 2 tablespoons of olive oil daily, as I do, you can definitely taste the difference between pure extra virgin olive oil vs diluted olive oil.

The Benefits of 1 to 2 Tablespoons Olive Oil Per Day | Healthy Eating | SF Gate
You pay the price because they are telling you it's 100% olive oil
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Old 07-15-2016, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Saint Paul, MN
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Add me to the list of people who switched over to California olive oil when this scandal hit. Hoping that with California's regulatory environment it is more likely to be authentic and pure.
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Old 07-15-2016, 08:10 PM
 
Location: West Texas
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You pay the price because they are telling you it's 100% olive oil
Take their word for it? No. You pay the higher price when you're assured that it's genuine 100% extra virgin. So who are you going to believe is telling you it's 100% extra virgin? The importers from foreign suppliers who have been proven guilty of diluting olive oil, or the California Olive Oil Council, who I've yet to hear allow diluted oils to bear their seal?

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Let’s face it: many of the olive oils on the market today claim to be extra virgin, but aren’t. To give consumers confidence they are purchasing 100% extra virgin olive oil, the COOC created the COOC Seal Certification Program.
Using stricter standards than international requirements, only the best California olive oils qualify for COOC certification. Following every harvest, we assess every member’s oil to ensure that it qualifies to display the COOC Seal.
https://www.cooc.com/about-the-seal/
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Old 07-15-2016, 08:32 PM
 
Location: West Texas
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Add me to the list of people who switched over to California olive oil when this scandal hit. Hoping that with California's regulatory environment it is more likely to be authentic and pure.
My travels take me to Lodi, California several times a year on business. That's where the Corto Olive groves are located. I can tell you that these growers are proud of the oils that they produce that bear the seal of the COOC (California Olive Oil Council). Part of the reason that they can't keep up with the demand for olive oil is the awareness of the import fraud.

Here is an interesting short clip on the Corto farm:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDzuETpmoEM
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Old 07-15-2016, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Ha ha...my thoughts exactly. I saw the 60 min show too. Unbelievable. I had not idea.

A Taste of olive does that. It's real. And real expensive, but if you need the real deal check them out. They have balsamic vinegars too. There's one in Chestnut Hill...and probably elsewhere. I see your in TX..probably can mail order...or nevermind
There are loads of chains across the country like this. Here, we have The Tasteful Olive and Heavenly Olive Oils and Vinegars; I've lived in two different cities that had Oh! Olive, etc. They all do olive oil and balsamics, and they all get their oil (and their vinegars) from the same importers. No way of knowing if it's legit or diluted; you just have to take their word for it. Odds/percentages seem to point to a high likelihood of it being diluted.
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Old 07-16-2016, 04:25 AM
 
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^^^ Good suggestion but only one problem, you normally can't taste it till you buy it and open the bottle. If it's a place that let's you sample it before buying then more than likely they would not be trying to sell fake oil.
True. Just have to go out on a limb and buy a bottle. At least you will have a good idea of what you bought and if you should buy it again.

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With artificial flavors and colors, I doubt that 1% can taste olive oil and tell if it is the real thing.
Its actually very easy to tell fresh real olive oil from fakes. Now you may label some real boutique olive oil varieties as fake. Where it becomes more difficult is when olive oil ages it mellows out and becomes more and more difficult to discern from fakes. At that point the only fakes you spot are the ones that have fermented or are too sweet.

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Not true. I prefer oil made from the Taggiasca olive - IT'S SWEET and fruity.
Yes there is always exceptions to the rule. However 99% of all olives are bitter, not sweet. If you know enough to be buying looking up olive oils specifically made from Taggiasca or Nisce olives then you probably already have a firm grasp on how to get real olive oil. In which case you should just disregard this thread.

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Wrong. Olive oil from the Koroneiki cultivar has a very high level of polyphenols. However, it is also very mild.

And again.

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Old 07-16-2016, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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^^^ Good suggestion but only one problem, you normally can't taste it till you buy it and open the bottle. If it's a place that let's you sample it before buying then more than likely they would not be trying to sell fake oil.
Exactly.

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Of course, the importer wouldn't have any ulterior motive for casting doubt on a competitor's product. No agenda there. Nope. None at all.
He also reps the California and Spanish OO.

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no need to waste money testing it with a lab. have your husband take a shot of olive oil, gargle in the back of the mouth, if it doesn't have a strong peppery, spicy sensation, there's no phenol, which means it's fake. additionally, olive oil is derived from a fruit. it's basically an olive fruit juice and it gets worse when stored too long after it's bottled or canned, it's meant to be consumed soon. it could also be that your husband's batch has been sitting in a warehouse for a long time. many have switched to cali evoo. because of quick transit and proximity, customers of CA oil have less issues.

evoo is judged on that and also the flavor notes. some are more earthy, some more fruity. the phenol test tho is the most important.

i buy vantia brand imported dop evoo. always consistent.
Wrong.

So funny how everyone is an expert.

My husband runs a $15 million dollar a year restaurant. He can't afford to wing it and gargle with OO hoping it is good. He has a culinary degree AND a biology degree, he knows when to trust the experts.
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