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Old 10-07-2018, 06:24 AM
Status: "Even better than okay" (set 9 days ago)
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Originally Posted by jlawrence01 View Post
The Chicago, Detroit and Cleveland areas have some of the largest number of Polish, Slavic, and Ukranian immigrants in the United States. I have been at many friend's houses for holidays where perogies have been served as one of the main dishes.

The frozen ones are OK as long as you avoid the ones from the dollar stores which are pretty bad.
Thanks, I didn't know that.
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Old 10-07-2018, 08:22 AM
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Chicken/Veal/Eggplant Parmigiana. Talk about a dish that's been murdered so many different ways with too much breading, drowned in sauce and/or cheese...along with just dried out.
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Old 10-07-2018, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Eumaois View Post
I don't go to enough ethnic restaurant to really have answer for this. Which ethnic dish do people here find screwed-up the least so it's harder for an SJW to pull the cultural appropriation card?

The eyerollis strong with this one.
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Old 10-07-2018, 11:15 AM
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by chiluvr1228 View Post
I love a good pierogi especially with some sour cream on top.

Don't forget the browned onions!

We always had them boiled first, cooled, then pan-fried in butter. I've been to a few reataurants where they offered them either boiled or pan fried but refused to do both. So much for the ol' 'the customer is always right' theory.
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Old 10-07-2018, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gizmo980 View Post
Anything specifically that you think we’ve “Americanized” too much? And what would you consider to be distinctly American food? Tough call, since we are inherently a nation of immigrants... so it makes sense that our cuisine would blend all of those together. Maybe some of the southern dishes, like grits and cornbread? I can’t think of any country that’s done those before us.
Well, part of it is the domestic production of things like white flour tortilla chips and microwaveable fake "cheese" that is mostly hydrogenated oil. Watery rice beer from cans. We went from bratwurst and delicatessen sausage made on-site with little to no preservatives, to "hot dogs" vacuum-packed and very processed, uniform, and "smooth" looking inside.

The second part is how people go crazy for this stuff! I understand the convenience and that the heavily processed foods are less perishable than fresh. I understand only that model can scale to the national level where someone can buy a pack of hot dogs, and they can sit in your fridge for 2 weeks before using them and they won't go bad. You can't exactly do that with something you get wrapped in butcher paper - you'd have to freeze it if you weren't going to eat it THAT week.

I can't blame people for wanting convenience but when you have the real thing, MAN is it good!
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:58 AM
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Originally Posted by missik999 View Post
Right- they offer tacos that have ingredients that you would never find in authentic Mexican tacos, burritos that are covered with a layer of melted cheese or stuffed with ingredients that aren’t authentic, etc.
Well, if you ever go to Guatemala or Nicaragua, don't bother with the food. It is all Guatemalized and Nicaraguized Mexican food. They use tons of inauthentic ingredients. I mean, in Guatemala, you will find potatoes and prunes in their tamales, and Nicaraguans never use queso Menonita, a German style cheese that is 100% authentically Mexican.
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Old 10-09-2018, 03:20 PM
Location: NYntarctica
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Originally Posted by Brave New World View Post
Part of the problem is that Chefs are often interested in winning awards and you don't win awards for Thai food.

You win awards for over fussy French or Japanese food, and there had been criticism of some reatarant guides, indeed the late A.A. Gill famously attacked the michelin guide which he called 'Out of Touch,' 'Bloated,' and 'Embarrassing'. Other critics have included the late Anthony Bourdain, Marco Pierre White, Mario Francesco Batali, Franck Dangereux, William Sitwell and numerous others.

Certainly Italian does not do as well in relation to Michelin nor does Indian food, Thai food or Indian food, indeed no Indian restaurant has ever received more than one michelin star.

People like Gordon Ramsay aren't expert on Thai food because if you want to be a succesful chef you are limited to what restaurant guides such as michelin dictate and you must learn your trade certainly not in a Thai restaurant but abd alsmost certainly in a French one.

This why people like Gordon Ransay are lauded the food establishment and why they win so many michelin stars.
Not necessarily. NYC had a Michelin-star rated Thai place called Zabb Elee (owners sold the place), and has some excellent restaurants like SriPraPhai and Ayada Thai
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Old 10-09-2018, 03:31 PM
Location: NYntarctica
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Originally Posted by Rumann Koch View Post
Pizza is a food that has almost morphed into an American food, with many versions in different regions of the US.

You would certainly get in a heated debate in New York or Chicago if you were to question the authenticity of their city's version!
Yeah if you say that New York style pizza is not authentic, you better be ready to catch these hands
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Old 10-10-2018, 04:20 AM
Location: Florida
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I think I would need a "base line" to compare to. For German food, I have my grandmother's home cooking to compare to.
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Old 10-10-2018, 10:38 AM
Location: Clown School
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Originally Posted by evening sun View Post
I only eat ethnic foods at ethnic restaurants, so far, no problems. I will not order a Thai dish at an American diner.
Same here. I also avoid places that feature multiple cuisines. A Japanese-Korean-Thai restaurant? RUN.
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