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Old 11-01-2018, 06:34 PM
 
Location: San Antonio/Houston
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Hold yer horses, or your cows, with the "Big Dairy" conspiracy theory. Raw milk is generally unavailable because of its shelf life makes it impractical for wide distribution and, because it is not pasteurized/UHT treated, it is more susceptible than treated milk to bacterial issues - such as causing brucellosis. This one happened in our area with a raw milk seller just last year:
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2017/...cal-treatment/


It never ceases to amaze me how many ways people can put conspiracy theories into every fact of life to support some presupposed dogma.
It never ceases to amaze me how many people are gullible...
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Old 11-01-2018, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Redwood Shores, CA
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Just paid $7.99 for a gallon. Pretty damn expensive.... Regular price even higher at $8.5.

Organic milk seems thicker and more flavorful than regular Vitamin D milk-1341773953.jpg
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I agree that organic milk has a richer flavor than regular pasteurized milk. I would prefer to buy organic milk even though it costs twice as much as regular milk but at the grocery store where I usually buy milk, the organic isn't always available and when it is, it doesn't last very long on the shelves due to the demand.
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:54 AM
 
Location: equator
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Yes - this is what it comes down to - the subjective nature of taste.


Both pasteurized (medium temp for longer time) and UHT (higher temp for shorter time) have been cooked - just at different temps for different times.
I was surprised to see that ALL milk products here (Ecuador) are UHT and not refrigerated. All milk is in boxes. Never heard of UHT before. Non-refrigerated milk (and eggs) seemed weird to me, but we got over it, lol.

As for raw milk, I grew up on it---no ill effects. Not too long ago, I had some and it was so tasty, I couldn't believe it. (in CA) But beyond expensive. A pint of cream was over $10. But, I don't drink milk, just use it for cooking/coffee.
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Old 11-02-2018, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Mesa AZ
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I was a true milkaholic for most of my 57 years, 1 to 2 gallons a week. Have drank organic milk the last 10 years and have really enjoyed how much better it tastes than regular. A few times I noticed that organic and regular milk had a little less flavor whenever cream and butter prices were higher due to limited supply, usually around the holidays. The fat content would be intentionally lowered when this happened.
Sadly I developed migraines and quit milk and cut back on red meat and my migraines stopped in a few weeks. Wish I had stopped them separately so I could know if milk was the cause.
Everyone should limit red meat consumption, there are several recent studies a showing a huge increase in stroke risk tied to red meat consumption.
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Old 11-03-2018, 05:55 AM
 
Location: SE Florida
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When we decide to make homemade motz or ricotta, we buy raw milk from a local organic farm/store. Done it several times with no problems.
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Old Today, 03:36 PM
 
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It never ceases to amaze me how many people are gullible...
Really? Do you know how many people died from infections from Milk before then process was developed then widely adopted back in the 1930s. About 25% of all food borne illness in the US for a start. Brucellosis, Myobacterium bovis, Coxiella burnetti. All things you do not want in your milk. And all invented before "Big Dairy"


Honestly, not everything is giant conspiracy. Its a common theme for conspiracy theorists to think they are more intelligent than the gullible ones, but in reality conspiracy theorists are usually the ones with a distorted understanding of how things actually work in their desire to see iniquitous motives behind everything.
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