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Old 06-23-2009, 09:15 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Oh no they would NEVER say a word because then they would wind up in jail. They looove their country. Oh and BTW I have never been to China but my husband spent 2 months there during the Olympics when they put their best foot forward. He still came home with some interesting stories like watching a US co-worker get interrogated for 2 hours the day after he had a private conversation with his wife where he had said some negative things about the Chinese govt. Can you say phone tap??
Yeah after I typed that I was thinking I shoulda said *think* instead of *say*. Lol.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Yellow Brick Road
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A large part of my complaint lies with the American corporations and US policy. That is who is doing this....

Why should we as American citizens pay top shelf prices for fifth rate product? It is a lose, lose for us the American people.
BINGO. You got it.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:16 AM
 
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A large part of my complaint lies with the American corporations and US policy. That is who is doing this....

Why should we as American citizens pay top shelf prices for fifth rate product? It is a lose, lose for us the American people.
How can you blame our govt allowing us to buy what we choose to buy. We really could, each on our very own, without any handholding by our government, make the decision to take a stand. Would it be easy? No! Would it be worth it? Absolutely!!
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Piggybacking on what Ani said... The complaints on this thread are in reference to the Chinese government and corporations who have exploited their policies. Basically everyone, down to those who buy the products made in China are saving/making money off of the the sweat of the chinese people. If we wait around for changes to be made from within China it will NEVER happen, if we wait for governments to "talk" to each other and ask for changes nicely, it will NEVER happen. The ONLY language these people understand is $$$$$$. If people take a stand and stop buying at least until the playing field is fair and the Chinese governement is held to the same standards we have here then circumstances would improve. I don't have a problem buying products that are not from the US as long as they are from a country that has standards and ways to check those standards. Typically then there are not such price differences because they have to produces those products in the same manner they are produced here, paying people a fair wage.

Also regarding the peanuts and spinach. Can you imagine how many more places would be found in China if they had agencies who looked and checked for these things or if that type of agency were allowed to disclose those findings or if their newspapers were allowed to write about those findings. Really how can any intelligent person even begin to try and defend China???

A large part of my complaint lies with the American corporations and US policy. That is who is doing this....

Why should we as American citizens pay top shelf prices for fifth rate product? It is a lose, lose for us the American people.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:21 AM
 
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A large part of my complaint lies with the American corporations and US policy. That is who is doing this....

Why should we as American citizens pay top shelf prices for fifth rate product? It is a lose, lose for us the American people.

BTW I do agree that US corp are very responsible and that our government COULD do something to change the unfair advantage that China has along with being able to send us not only CRAP but dangerous stuff as well. I just don't think we should or need to wait around for them to do it for us.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Yellow Brick Road
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How can you blame our govt allowing us to buy what we choose to buy. We really could, each on our very own, without any handholding by our government, make the decision to take a stand. Would it be easy? No! Would it be worth it? Absolutely!!
Well, I don't think we are blaming the government, even tho the trade policies are what opened the flood gates. In that sense, the government provided the opportunity for corporations to screw us (w/ exporting of jobs - and importing crappy goods).

However, we SHOULD hold feet to the fire of these corporations that have outsourced our jobs. But it is no longer as simple as saying - XX Corp outsources to China, so let's boycott them. Why? B/c XX Corp was going under - due to competition and loss of sales - and so they felt they had no choice but move operations to China in order to compete and continue as a corporation. They were not concerned about keeping jobs in the USA - they were concerned w/ not going bankrupt. Essentially, what they did, was make sure the executives, support staff and sales reps kept their jobs - whilst the guy MAKING the products got the shaft.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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BTW I do agree that US corp are very responsible and that our government COULD do something to change the unfair advantage that China has along with being able to send us not only CRAP but dangerous stuff as well. I just don't think we should or need to wait around for them to do it for us.

What are your thoughts on us being heard?

(off to the office check back in a bit)
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:43 AM
 
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Here's an idea... if you don't like stuff being made where it's made, don't buy it. If you don't like Walmart, don't shop there. If enough people stop liking a place or an item, the company will stop carry the product or go out of business.

That's the great thing about living in this country. You can go down to the local farm or make your own apple juice. Don't blame Walmart. At least they tell you where it's made so you can make those decisions.

Pretty soon we'll be required to buy from GM (Government Motors) so take advantage of your freedom of choice while you can.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Here's an idea... if you don't like stuff being made where it's made, don't buy it. If you don't like Walmart, don't shop there. If enough people stop liking a place or an item, the company will stop carry the product or go out of business.

That's the great thing about living in this country. You can go down to the local farm or make your own apple juice. Don't blame Walmart. At least they tell you where it's made so you can make those decisions.

Pretty soon we'll be required to buy from GM (Government Motors) so take advantage of your freedom of choice while you can.

In our home, we already do this.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:49 AM
 
Location: CLT native
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Pretty soon we'll be required to buy from GM (Government Motors) so take advantage of your freedom of choice while you can.
We've ALL already invested in GM, consenting or not....
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