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Old 07-23-2009, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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Plant-based foods also seem to be superior to animal-based foods when it comes to vitamins and minerals. In The China Study: The Most Comprehensive Study of Nutrition Ever Conducted and the Startling Implications for Diet, Weight Loss and Long-term Health, written by Dr. T. Colin Campbell and his son Thomas M. Campbell, they compare plant-based nutrients (equal portions of lima beans, peas, potatoes, spinach, and tomatoes) against animal-based nutrients (equal portions of beef, chicken, pork, and whole milk).

Go to link to see the surprising results.
: New Wrinkles Blog Archive Animal Versus Plant-Based Foods

Plant-based foods also offer other health benefits. They are a great source of quality protein, and they contain vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, and other important nutrients. And plant-based foods usually contain little saturated fat in comparison to animal-based protein.

 
Old 07-24-2009, 10:12 AM
 
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Very biased book..not at all about nutrition, but rather vegan-rage.

Sure veggies are good for you, but not at the exclusion of everything else. Might want to move this to the veg sub-forum.
 
Old 07-24-2009, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Agenda, much?

What works best for any given individual in terms of diet is VERY individual - if I ate a vegetarian diet (and I've tried it a couple of times), I'd be sick as a dog. My late best friend did great on a vegetarian diet. We had very different genetic heritages, which, with other things, determined what was healthy for each of us individually.

What would NOT have been healthy would have been insisting that the other must eat what we did, that the diet that worked for us was the only healthy one for everyone on the planet.

That has nothing to do with food, and everything to do with an agenda.
 
Old 07-27-2009, 08:40 AM
 
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How on earth could a healthy vegetarian diet make you "sick as a dog"?

Vegetarian athletes
Ruth Heidrich, Three-Time Ironman
Debbie Lawrence, 5k Record Holder
Edwin Moses, Olympic Champion
Leroy Burrell, Olympic Champion
Lucy Stephens, Tri-athlete
Stan Price, World Record Bench Press
Jim Kaat, Baseball Player
Tony Larussa, Baseball Manager
Hank Aaron, Baseball Player
Bill Pearl, Bodybuilder
Marv Levey, Buffalo Bills Coach
Robert Parnish, Center (Bulls)
Joe Namath, Football Player
Lawrence Phillips, Football Player (49ers)
Steve Bellamy, Founder of the Tennis Channel
Surya Bonaly, French Figure Skater
Brendan Brazier, Ironman Triathlete
Sally Eastall, Marathon Runner
Andreas Cahling, Mr. International Bodybuilder
Carl Lewis, Olympic Track Star
Murray Rose, Olympic Swimmer
Pat Reeves, Power Lifter
Bill Manetti, Powerlifting Champion
Ed Templeton, Pro Skateboarder
Mike Manzoori, Pro Skateboarder
Laban Pheidas, Proskater
Steve Berra, Proskater
Anastasia Ashley, Surfer
Martina Navratilova, Tennis Player
Bille Jean King, Tennis Champion
Peter Burwash, Tennis Champion
John Salley, Toronto Raptors
Killer Kowalski, Wrestler
 
Old 07-27-2009, 08:51 AM
 
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Wow are you sure all those are year-round, lifelong vegetarians? Somehow I never would have guessed Hank Aaron was a vegetarian. Wild, if so.

Anyway, nutrition is only one reason why I choose to eat what I do. There are lots of good reasons not to eat meat - and maybe this sounds harsh and selfish, but - I grew up eating meat, it's readily available and affordable, I enjoy it, and I will continue to eat it for now.

Thanks for the topic, though - I'm surprised it hasn't gotten more attention.
 
Old 07-27-2009, 09:12 AM
 
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Plant-based foods also offer other health benefits. They are a great source of quality protein, and they contain vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, and other important nutrients. And plant-based foods usually contain little saturated fat in comparison to animal-based protein.
Humans are omnivores. A well-balanced and healthful diet can include animal products as well as plant material.
 
Old 07-27-2009, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Originally Posted by Apples&Oranges View Post
How on earth could a healthy vegetarian diet make you "sick as a dog"?

Vegetarian athletes
Ruth Heidrich, Three-Time Ironman
Debbie Lawrence, 5k Record Holder
Edwin Moses, Olympic Champion
Leroy Burrell, Olympic Champion
Lucy Stephens, Tri-athlete
Stan Price, World Record Bench Press
Jim Kaat, Baseball Player
Tony Larussa, Baseball Manager
Hank Aaron, Baseball Player
Bill Pearl, Bodybuilder
Marv Levey, Buffalo Bills Coach
Robert Parnish, Center (Bulls)
Joe Namath, Football Player
Lawrence Phillips, Football Player (49ers)
Steve Bellamy, Founder of the Tennis Channel
Surya Bonaly, French Figure Skater
Brendan Brazier, Ironman Triathlete
Sally Eastall, Marathon Runner
Andreas Cahling, Mr. International Bodybuilder
Carl Lewis, Olympic Track Star
Murray Rose, Olympic Swimmer
Pat Reeves, Power Lifter
Bill Manetti, Powerlifting Champion
Ed Templeton, Pro Skateboarder
Mike Manzoori, Pro Skateboarder
Laban Pheidas, Proskater
Steve Berra, Proskater
Anastasia Ashley, Surfer
Martina Navratilova, Tennis Player
Bille Jean King, Tennis Champion
Peter Burwash, Tennis Champion
John Salley, Toronto Raptors
Killer Kowalski, Wrestler
Easy, if I don't happen to share the genetic make-up of those particular folks (assuming that they all are or were vegetarians), and that my particular genetic make-up means that a vegetarian diet, however carefully designed (and I'm one of those annoying people who researches the heck out of anything they do to make sure they're doing it right), is unhealthy for me.

In other words, I'm on the other end of the bell curve from the people you mention (and, for that matter, from my late best friend the vegetarian who did just fine on a vegetarian diet if you don't consider the cancer and I don't blame that on vegetarianism).

The entire point of the post that you pulled that little bit out of was that it is extremely foolish to assume that because you do well or poorly on a particular diet, that everyone else on the planet, or even most of them, will react identically to the way YOUR body reacts. Even moreso if it's one of those things that's filling the place of religion for a lot of people.


The point was that
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