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Old 08-23-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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Lincoln Launches Black Label on MKZ, MKC Concept - Motor Trend WOT

Guess some at Ford think a trim upgrade makes a brand luxury even though all your vehicle's foundations are based upon cheaper Ford vehicles.
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Old 08-23-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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I've always been a big Ford fan, and a performance enthusiast, but Lincoln never won me over. I always perceived it as a boring luxury car.

If Lincoln would give itself a sporty image and attract more of the youth market, i think they would see growth. A nice Mark 9 sedan and coupe could be interesting. Base it on the Mustang chassis, V6 and V8 option, add a manual trans, sunroof, make it look nice, RWD or AWD and I think they would have a winner. I realize it's a limited market, but at least get a few pulses racing and get people thinking "That's a nice Lincoln" even if they can't own such a model.

Right now, the FWD (or FWD-baised AWD) sedans just look boring to drive. It's a shame too because up until recently I've been a faithful Ford owner. When i wanted to get a luxury car, Lincoln just didn't do anything for me. They still don;t.
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Old 08-23-2013, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Butler County Ohio and Winters in Florida
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I've always been a big Ford fan, and a performance enthusiast, but Lincoln never won me over. I always perceived it as a boring luxury car.

If Lincoln would give itself a sporty image and attract more of the youth market, i think they would see growth. A nice Mark 9 sedan and coupe could be interesting. Base it on the Mustang chassis, V6 and V8 option, add a manual trans, sunroof, make it look nice, RWD or AWD and I think they would have a winner. I realize it's a limited market, but at least get a few pulses racing and get people thinking "That's a nice Lincoln" even if they can't own such a model.

Right now, the FWD (or FWD-baised AWD) sedans just look boring to drive. It's a shame too because up until recently I've been a faithful Ford owner. When i wanted to get a luxury car, Lincoln just didn't do anything for me. They still don;t.
I agree with this, I believe Ford should have kept Mercury with Lincoln as so many dealers were a few years back. Mercury should have been over hauled and new vehicles introduced as a youth brand, like Toyota's Scion. I also think Ford could have done some re-body models from Ford, like build a Cougar from the Mustang, but it must be a body change, not just grills, lights, and trim.

I also do not care for the looks of the new Lincoln, but I did attend one of their ride and drives and was truely impressed.
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Old 08-23-2013, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Prosper
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Ford just needs to suck it up and hire the guys from Cadillac that were responsible for its brand makeover and call it a day. They are failing miserably on their own.
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Ford just needs to suck it up and hire the guys from Cadillac that were responsible for its brand makeover and call it a day. They are failing miserably on their own.
I said way back in January when the MKZ entered the market, that this would be the last year for Lincoln, and I still say that.
When people are not buying your product, that spells disaster, and unless you make the product that people want, it is good-bye to your business.
Bob.
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Old 08-23-2013, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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re-trim a re-badged Ford, what could possibly say luxury more than that?
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:20 AM
 
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I thought Lincoln was on to something when they dropped the 32-valve V8 into the Mark VIII, but it didn't sell nearly enough units.

The current Lincoln lineup leaves a bit to be desired. About the last thing I liked from them was the 32-valve Navigator.
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Ford just needs to suck it up and hire the guys from Cadillac that were responsible for its brand makeover and call it a day. They are failing miserably on their own.
Or the people at Lexus who dress up the Camry as a Lexus and sell a whole lot of them.
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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badge engineering is nothing new, in fact every automaker has done it, including gm, toyota, nissan, honda, etc. the worst at it was chrysler just before plymouth went away.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Central TX
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Lipstick on a pig. Current Lincoln's are probably pretty nice vehicles in reality, but I'm not 80 years old yet.
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