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Old 11-10-2016, 06:44 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Im looking at a Crown Victoria which is a 2000 that has 250000 miles however been well maintenanced.

The person selling it to me said her boyfriend had a couple of strokes and cant drive anymore and was selling it for 1200 but i talked her down to 950
Its not a intetceptor neither. It was however for a correctional facility place and was auctined off .

And im wondering if 2000 was a good year for the crown victoria

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Old 11-10-2016, 07:02 PM
 
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I don't mean to be sarcastic but when us older fellows see the words Crown Victoria, our minds go to the beautiful ones built in the 1950s.

Sorry but I know nothing about the newer Crown Vics but good luck.
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:13 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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I don't mean to be sarcastic but when us older fellows see the words Crown Victoria, our minds go to the beautiful ones built in the 1950s.

Sorry but I know nothing about the newer Crown Vics but good luck.
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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Im looking at a Crown Victoria which is a 2000 that has 250000 miles however been well maintenanced.

The person selling it to me said her boyfriend had a couple of strokes and cant drive anymore and was selling it for 1200 but i talked her down to 950
Its not a intetceptor neither. It was however for a correctional facility place and was auctined off .

And im wondering if 2000 was a good year for the crown victoria
I think the actual condition of this particular unit is more important than the vintage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_C...arly_changes_2

As you can see, there were minor improvements and changes, the Y2K car is early enough to not have many of these changes.

But I would rather have a MY 2000 car in great shape than a beat up ex-cop car many years newer.
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:23 PM
 
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in my opinion, the best panther chassis fords(crown vic/grandmarquis/lincoln towncar) are the 2003 and up cars. they have rack and pinion steering, and a watts link to locate the rear end, and four wheel disc brakes, and better suspension geometry.
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:46 AM
 
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I'd second the 2003+ versions.


250K miles would have me leary with any vehicle though.
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Old 11-11-2016, 11:48 AM
 
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I'd second the 2003+ versions.


250K miles would have me leary with any vehicle though.
condition is more important than mileage. i have seen vehicles with 30,000 miles that were total trash, and vehicles with over 200,000 miles that were pristine. granted both of these are rare situations, but they do happen.

but to be completely honest, i do have reservations on vehicles with over 200,000 miles, unless they are diesel trucks.
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Old 11-11-2016, 04:52 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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For a car like the Crown Victoria, the move to rack and pinion steering in 2003 was a big step backward, not forward. With the traditional recirculating ball steering thru 2002, they tracked so surely and stably that you could take your hand off the wheel on a flat freeway and go for a mile without touching it. With rack and pinion, the stable tracking is gone and they wander all over the road without constant correction.

The move to rack and pinion steering is a cost-cutting measure for manufacturers and is a clear disadvantage for consumers. And yet the industry has successfully programmed young buyers by the millions to think it is a step forward. It is the opposite.

My take is that the 1995 and 2002 Crown Vics were the best years for the whales (1992+). Years prior to 1992 were better yet, but expensive, of course, if you find one in really nice condition.

The 2002 still had the rock-solid stability of recirculating ball steering and it also had a re-engineered intake manifold that reduced the incidence of cracking and associated coolant loss, that plagued 1996-2001 models. 1995 and earlier models had aluminum manifolds and did not have this problem.

AGCO Automotive Repair Service - Baton Rouge, LA - Detailed Auto Topics - Ford 4.6L Plastic Intake Manifold Problems

This is an outstanding reference and will show that 2003 was probably THE worst year and drilling down into the complaints will tell you why.

Ford Crown Victoria Problems | CarComplaints.com

Lastly, anyone considering an older Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Town Car should be prepared to foot the bill for some or all of the following repairs - and sooner than later....
  • Window regulators
  • HVAC blend door replacement (very expensive if you're not a skilled mechanic and must take it to a shop)
  • EATC blower motor controller replacement
  • Air suspension component or complete replacement
But they're still the best (affordable for everyday folk) cars on the road of those built since the mid-late 80s. I recently replaced my Crown Vic with a same year Lincoln Town Car and wouldn't seriously consider anything else in the (more recent) used market.
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Old 11-11-2016, 05:47 PM
 
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For a car like the Crown Victoria, the move to rack and pinion steering in 2003 was a big step backward, not forward. With the traditional recirculating ball steering thru 2002, they tracked so surely and stably that you could take your hand off the wheel on a flat freeway and go for a mile without touching it. With rack and pinion, the stable tracking is gone and they wander all over the road without constant correction.

The move to rack and pinion steering is a cost-cutting measure for manufacturers and is a clear disadvantage for consumers. And yet the industry has successfully programmed young buyers by the millions to think it is a step forward. It is the opposite.
i disagree, my 05 gmq tracks quite nicely thank you. the key is getting the alignment settings right.
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Old 11-14-2016, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Pawtucket, RI
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I've never owned a 1998-02, but the ones I've driven feel a lot floatier than the 03+. IMO, 2004 is the best year of the lot, but I would trust a 2000 as long as the intake manifold has been replaced with one with an aluminum crossover and it it isn't rotting out (commonly in the rocker panels or fender lips).

AFAIK, the blend door actuator is only an issue with electronic temperature control, so don't worry about that if you have climate control dials. EATC head unit failures are usually limited to the O-rings that direct air to the defroster, dash, or floor. It's a simple job that cost me 40 cents in parts at Home Depot and took about 10 minutes.

Air suspension, again, is only an issue if you have it, and doubt a 2000 ordered for a correctional facility does.
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