Fort Collins vs. Loveland (Denver, Colorado Springs: housing, rent, job)

[ncrea]

Some answers to your questions:

1. There are people living in Loveland and Ft. Collins who commute to work
each day; some to Loveland, some to Ft. Collins, some to Cheyenne,
Wyoming, others go south to the Denver area.
2. Traffic between Loveland and Ft. Collins is not bad. You can drive 55
easily before hitting the city limits, where you drop down to 35 - 40. A
little bumper to bumper at peak times, but not much.
3. Both cities are safe.
4. The city only snow plows the major arterials, i.e., the highways, streets
around schools, and those in downtown. Neighborhoods are left for last
and very rarely get plowed. Sand or a liquid chemical is put down for ice.
5. Meth is bad everywhere. Although I don't see the users on the streets,
nor is crime abnormally high because of it. You will read about busts in the
paper.
6. I haven't seen a lot of homeless people walking the streets or hanging
around businesses or parks. They are there, but they tend to keep out of
sight for the most.
7. There are very few times when it snows so bad that you need AWD or a
4x4. FWD will do just fine around here.
8. There is plenty of new construction in both Loveland and Ft. Collins. I
would rate Loveland a little more conservative and less progressive than
Ft. Collins.

Look me up when you are ready move.

[Christian11]

Originally Posted by ncrea

Some answers to your questions:

5. Meth is bad everywhere. Although I don't see the users on the streets,
nor is crime abnormally high because of it. You will read about busts in the
paper.

6. I haven't seen a lot of homeless people walking the streets or hanging
around businesses or parks. They are there, but they tend to keep out of
sight for the most.

Look me up when you are ready move.

Ncrea:

Wow thanks for the info rundown! That is really appreciated!

Yeah meth is becoming an epidemic in America. In Orlando, it is not as bad, but on the other hand crack is VERY bad and these guys are extremely violent. I was watching the news this morning and it was very depressing. Several people stabbed, one guy who smoked crack and then broke into these kid's bedroom and was beating them (caught on the homeowner's security camera), several robberies.... geez man.

As for homeless folk, they don't bother me if they are not violent and stay out of sight. I hear Boulder is the San Francisco of Colorado when it comes to bums and elitist left-wingers!

Now what do you mean by "look me up when you are ready to move"? Are you a realtor??

C.

[concoulor3]

It seems that you have a lot of preconceived ideas. This might not be the state for you...I have lived here my entire life and never felt unsafe. BTW, The Fort is a well-known restaurant in Golden and the abv might confuse people. Namaste! (Peace)

concoulor

[Christian11]

concoulor3:

I have no preconceived ideas, but homelessness does affect communities negatively. Crack is bad in Orlando. Drugs are bad, man. Period. I don't see how that is a "preconceived" idea.

Boulder is not as nice as the sourrounding areas, I am telling you. You apy too much to love there and it is not as nice. "You get what you pay for" is not valid in Boulder. Boulder is cute, but too expensive for what you get.

The Fort is how locals call Fort Collins. The restaurant can confuse you, that is for sure. I didn't know the restaurant was there, though.

Peace out.

Chris

[chilaili]

Originally Posted by concoulor3

It seems that you have a lot of preconceived ideas. This might not be the state for you...I have lived here my entire life and never felt unsafe. BTW, The Fort is a well-known restaurant in Golden and the abv might confuse people. Namaste! (Peace)

concoulor

I couldn't agree more.

[Coloradoman]

Hi Christian 11,
Fort Collins is a very nice city. My mom grew up there, and my mom's sister, her husband and my two cousins still live there. About the only thing I dislike about it is the insane traffic. Crime is very low for a city of 120,000.
Loveland, to be quite honest, is a carbon copy of Fort Collins. In the last five years Loveland and Fort Collins have grown into eachother, so they are really a single mini-metro area rather than two seperate towns.
Oh yeah, and as far as nicknames go, 'The Fort' is very antiquated; the most common one applied to Fort Collins by the locals currently is "FoCo." Just fyi.

I cannot stress enough, stay AWAY from Greeley. It was a nice town ten years ago; today is a crime and drugridden gangland overrun by tens of thousands of ******* illegal immigrants. Most of the middle class white people have fled to Fort Collins/Loveland/suburban Denver, about the only white folks left are the blue collar working class families and the trailer trash. That sounds harsh but it's the truth.
Oh yeah, and about the meth... well the town I live in, Fort Morgan, a dying agricultural burg of 11,000 50 miles southeast of Greeley and 80 miles northeast of Denver, is one of the main distribution hubs in the West for meth. But don't let that fact stop you from moving here. There are some very nice places to live in Colorado like Fort Collins/Loveland, Douglas Co., Co. Springs, and any of the mountain towns. But like anywhere else, there are places you want to steer clear of at all costs, like Greeley and Fort Morgan.
Good luck with your move!

[Christian11]

Coloradoman:

Your reply was by far THE BEST and most honest one I have seen in this forum in a while!!

I am surprised to hear the traffic in FoCo (I sometimes called it FTC). As for "The Fort" - someone in Fort Collins called it that, and as an outsider, I thought it was the new name for the town. Anyways, I heard from a couple transplants (one from Huntington Beach CA and one from Buffalo, NY - one living in Loveland and ont at FoCo) and they said the locals complain about traffic, but to transplants, it is nice.

I tell you man, Orlando, Florida was # 4 town for road rage and like #3 for Traffic. It is REALLY bad! So even if traffic in FoCo is bad, I bet I will be able to pull through. It cannot be worst then Orlando, man. I saw some traffic, but not too horrible. I was expecting a lot worse, but I certainly want to double check on the traffic issue when I am out there early next year. I appreciate the heads up.

Man, I only heard bad things about Greely. Homes are declining in price there a lot, so that is the danger for people who are not from the area. Since I don't like to deal with illegal aliens (and I have worked in Immigration law before), I was told while in Fort Collins that Greely is like the illegal alien hub of Northern CO.

My question is, where is the closest ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) office and why don't the locals don't snitch out these aliens? The aliens here in Orlando are everywhere , man. ICE is raving up the arrests, so it is helping some. We had like 2 cops killed in 1 week a month or so ago, by illegal aliens driving cars w/o licenses and in both cases the aliens ran and they blockaded all roads in a 20 mile radius (it was insane - 3 hours just to drive 3 miles) and busted both aliens. People need to get these aliens deported. I saw there is a new CO law where the state will have to sue the Federal gov't for enforcement of existing Immigration laws. I hope they start demanding costs

Americans don't get it, but once the aliens are out, schools won't be overcrowded, medical care will be more available for poorer people, jobs in general will pay more, since there will be competition between companies for the workers (supply and demand). The amnesty (called a "Guest worker" is nothing more than a ploy by corporations like Walmark and Tyson chicken to get cheap labor constantly coming in, outsourcing American jobs inside out).

I told my wife she is forbidden from even going NEAR Greely. I appreciate the warming though. Greely is trash, that is all I hear. Keep that message going, man. You will help keep out of state folks from getting stuck moving there!

The meth thing seems bad in heartland America. Orlando is got a crack problem and the crackheads are crazy. I see one on TV on the back of the police car every morning... it's getting old. Most don't even remember robbing a 7-11 or carjacksing someone.

The pics for Fort Morgan on the website make the town look clean and all.... lots of illegal aliens there too, huh?

So here is my question... why don't you move from your fort to the other fort?

Thanks for the info.

[nostress13]

We are thinking of a move to Ft. Collins; we are coming from the high desert area of So Cal. We have little insect activity out here due to either the low humidity or elevation or both. Are there a lot of insects in Ft. Collins? How is the fly and flea situation? Thanks for any info.

[caligal0]

Any pros or cons about living in either city? I am contemplating the move and both cities seem nice. If age is a factor, I am 48 feeling 35. Will be heading that way without knowing anyone. Are people friendly and open to another Californian?

[2bindenver]

it would be easy enough to evaluate both, in person, then choose the one that fits your needs the best.