01-25-2008, 07:31 PM
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Without naming names of schools, I will just say that I went to 2 different ones this week (locally)...one asked for $608 per month, and the other was almost $400 per month. I saw NO difference in either school. This is the first time I'm actually realizing what everyone is saying about low funding in Florida making schools less desirable. And when I make the next set of comments, I am not trying to make my child the "model" child by no means (just trying to point out what is being offered).........but he is a very advanced 4 year old who reads 1st grade level, writes, counts passed 100, etc. When I went to these schools, they told me how the curriculum has the kids counting to 10, but we actually teach them up to 12. I was stunned. 12? What about the kids that go beyond that? This will bore them. Do you offer some sort of diversity where the kids can all learn on their levels and go beyond that? Then they showed me the Pre-K classroom, and told me how they are napping, because they nap from 12:30-2:30. WHAT!? I said, "my son doesn't nap, what is he supposed to do for 2 hours?" They said, "he can read a book on his cot or something." FOR 2 HOURS??? I thought to myself. Are you serious? 2 hours of no learning. How can they expect my son to sit quietly, on a cot, for 2 hours, reading by himself. And this was the school that was charging $608.
I came home, looked at my husband, and said, "Maybe I should home school him for Pre-K." But this really began me thinking about how maybe we should relocate. I don't know.
All I know is that I have a teaching degree, did a year of teaching, and I have been teaching my kids at home from birth to now (the oldest is 4).
I think I just expected more.
In all honesty, I'm not sure if I would want to relocate.
I really like where I live.
I hate the high taxes and high home prices preventing us from moving into a HOUSE (vs. the condo we own), but I like the convenience of the area and the comfort I feel.
I don't have the hang-up here about how rude people are, because honestly, everyone knows us in all the stores we shop and say hi to my kids (and know their names) all of the time. It's really a quite comforting feeling.
However, I'm sure another place would be just as nice.
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01-25-2008, 08:55 PM
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Relocating will not necessarily solve your problems on this one. I moved from S. FL to the Charlotte area of NC, and if you think preschool is expensive there, you should see prices here. For a 4-year old they range anywhere from $750 - $1000 +/month, and the programming is pretty much the same as what you have mentioned. For this you get to be on a LONG waiting list hoping someone will call you to tell you there is an opening.
01-25-2008, 09:23 PM
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My parents had the same problem, but up in NY. They enrolled me into a "school for the gifted", may I suggest that you at least examine this as a possibility.
01-26-2008, 09:09 AM
Location: Miami
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When people talk about low funding related to schools, they are usually referring to public schools. With the prices you are mentioning, I think you must be referring to private preschools. If you go to the public schools, they have the VPK program which is, I think, either free for a half day or in the $100 range for a full day. I don't know what the public preschools are like in Broward, but in Dade, they are really quite good to exellent, one of the best things the Miami-Dade County Public School system has to offer. If Broward is like this as well, I recommend you look into that option. Maybe you can find an opening somewhere.
However, the curriculum you describe is typical for any preschool environment - although I have to admit only counting to 12 does seem a little low. What curriculum are they using? Highscope? Reggio? Waldorf? Montessori? Usually preschools are primarily play-based with an introduction to academics - phonemic awareness, numbers, circle time, etc. My child is exactly like you describe your child, and they are the same age. My child also does not nap. He attends a preschool like the ones you describe for 4-6 hours a day.
I do not stress over the fact that he is so academically advanced and in a traditional setting because there is more to life at the age of
four than academics. Four year olds should be socializing and learning through a play-based environment, and not receiving academic instruction the entire time they are in preschool. So what if my kid can read and count to 100 backward and forward and they are learning to count to 20 or whatever in his classroom? If this were first grade or higher, I would look into an accelerated curriculum, but this is
preschool . Your son may find all the play opportunities and activities fulfilling and not be bored.
Re the 2-hour nap, maybe you could pull him out before nap time. I do this sometimes. But you know what? Down time is good for everyone, even preschoolers. My child has nap time also for up to 2 hours and they tell me he rolls around in his cot "doing yoga," lol. Maybe he's thinking up some fanciful stories to entertain himself, or contemplating life, or counting to 100 and back, who knows. It's an opportunity to learn self-regulation.
I say don't sweat it, give preschool a try, he might just have fun, make some new friends, and learn something along the way.
Recommended reading:
Amazon.com: Einstein Never Used Flash Cards: How Our Children Really Learn-- And Why They Need to Play More and Memorize Less: Books: Kathy Hirsh-Pasek,Diane Eyer,Roberta Michnick Golinkoff
01-26-2008, 09:11 AM
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If you go to the public schools, they have the VPK program which is, I think, either free for a half day or in the $100 range for a full day.
We saw the room they put you in for pre-K if you're in the VPK program and it's WORSE! Small, crammed, and separated from the classroom where the kids "that pay" are in.
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I do not stress over the fact that he is so academically advanced and in a traditional setting because there is more to life at the age of four than academics. Four year olds should be socializing and learning through a play-based environment, and not receiving academic instruction the entire time they are in preschool. So what if my kid can read and count to 100 backward and forward and they are learning to count to 20 or whatever in his classroom? If this were first grade or higher, I would look into an accelerated curriculum, but this is preschool . Your son may find all the play opportunities and activities fulfilling and not be bored.
I can say for a fact that my son would get bored for those 2 hours.
He is a busy-minded child.
We do a lot of extra-curricular outside of the pre-K spectrum (he ice skates once a week, has a Hip Hop Dance class once a week, amongst other things...now he wants to learn to play an instrument).
Since I am a stay-at-home mom (and I know I'm very blessed to be able to stay home), I can't justify putting my son in a school 5 days a week, where he's learning a very small percentage of anything new, and I'm paying over $600 for this. I can have his friends at his house and continue with these extra things outside that we do.
01-26-2008, 09:18 AM
Location: O-Town
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Better to pre school at home you can give more attention and best of all it`s free. I did things at home and he is ahead of most of his class so for free I think I did ok.
01-26-2008, 10:08 AM
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Better to pre school at home you can give more attention and best of all it`s free. I did things at home and he is ahead of most of his class so for free I think I did ok.
I agree, and I've decided to do that too.
05-07-2008, 06:32 AM
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Good Preschool
Too bad you are not in our town in MIchigan. I teach class 8am - 12pm five days a week for $40 a week. I have several children in the class who are still 4 years old and are beginning to read. My advice is to keep searching until you find the best fit. Also, when you find a "good" place - tell all your friends. Word of mouth is the best advertisement for preschool/childcare!!
05-07-2008, 09:18 AM
Location: Boca Raton, FL but want Clayton, NC ASAP!
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Please PM me with which schools you looked at. I have one that I can recommend, but it's in SW Boca (extreme SW Boca...the next intersection is Broward County).
05-07-2008, 12:03 PM
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i'm not surprised..that's America education system..the kids start out very slowly..compared to other countries, like Japan. i would say save your money and homeschool at home
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People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)