More immigrants leaving south florida (Miami, St. Petersburg: work, homes, high crime)

[Wild Style]

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does melrose run all the way down david blvd to I-95? If so that is where my wife says a lot of the immigrants she says are. She said she has seen the pick up trucks going to pick up tons of them over there.

[compelled to reply]

Don't quote me on this, but I think Melrose is over at 31st ave. I say this because Melrose is for the most part just a working class quiet neighborhood and on the other side is more like "da hood" but they are both majority black neighborhoods. Those gas stations off of State Road 7 also used to be major pick up spots. Most of the illegals stay south of Davie Blvd to Riverland (which is that nice looking area with the canals that you see off of 595).

I also want to add that the feel is different between Chula Vista and Broadview. Broadview looks and feels like it belongs in Orlando or Tampa while Chula Vista is like a full fledged So Cal style barrio and is actually kind of cool in that way.

[crisp444]

Originally Posted by compelled to reply

That's Broadview Park/Chula Vista which I already mentioned and by far the biggest enclave. Mostly an odd mix of Mexicans, US born blacks and left over good ol boys.

LOL sounds like Homestead or eastern Lake Worth!

[compelled to reply]

Yep. It's the biggest area in Broward like that but still kind of pales compared to Lake Worth (in general actually). I also feel a good deal safer in that said area, it really feels like something out of a San Diego barrio where Lake Worth feels more like Compton over the past 3 or so years! Homestead is more like...San Bernardino...just a way different feel between those three areas.

Sorry for all of the So Cal analogies...

[crisp444]

Lake Worth must have really changed dramatically in the last 8 years or so because I don't remember it being like the hood at all; it seemed to be like Homestead (which, despite its high crime rate, doesn't "feel" that unsafe in general). It's really funny that people call it South Florida's Compton because it seemed so normal and middle class to me back then!

Edit: you know I like the SoCal analogies You speak in code to me about that and I speak in code to you about Miami's non-English speaking Hispanic population Speaking of that, isn't it pretty much common knowledge now that Weston's Savannah and all those neighborhoods in northern Weston fronting Alligator Alley / I-75 are just a giant barrio nowadays anyway?

[compelled to reply]

Compton isn't really that "hood" either anymore, it's half barrio, half hood. Lake Worth is pretty urban feeling now, definitely a huge shift. Always a high crime rate but the types of crimes are shifting. Gang wars and that kind of stuff...

[crisp444]

So when a ghetto is populated by Mexicans it's the barrio but when it's populated by African-Americans it's the hood? So I guess my statement about Weston is true! Gold medal for me!

[compelled to reply]

Originally Posted by crisp444

So when a ghetto is populated by Mexicans it's the barrio but when it's populated by African-Americans it's the hood? So I guess my statement about Weston is true! Gold medal for me!

I know you are joking, but to clarify for anyone who doesn't think I am, barrios and hoods are more of a way of life than just ethnic composition.

All of the neighborhoods in Weston has pretty much the same ethnic composition, but Savanna is the only one that has a literal Hispanic plurality, but it's still close. If you look at the elementary school for Savanna the demographics are the same as the other Weston schools. Weston isn't a barrio because the way of life doesn't define a barrio. The closest thing to a true "barrio" are a few strips of those condos off of Bonaventure Blvd or Blatt by 75. And there are all sorts of different barios in Miami....not just Mexican.

[Sharkey514]

This Miami-Herald story is featured on Michael Savage's website, also

[crisp444]

Compelled, let me know if I am just being blinded by my bias, but I would never consider a typical Miami-Dade Cuban neighborhood to be the barrio. I have never in my entire life heard a Cuban neighborhood in Florida called a barrio in English (though I have heard the term applied to Puerto Rican neighborhoods in Orlando, so I guess it doesn't just mean a low class Mexican neighborhood). The feel of the Mexican barrios in California is distinct from the Cuban neighborhoods in Miami - the Cuban neighborhoods tend to be more affluent, better maintained, more clean, etc. and they tend to have lower crime rates and less gang-related violence. There seems to be much more of a stigma that goes with living in or near a Mexican barrio than living in or near a Cuban neighborhood. Even in NYC I have heard people say that some areas "became the barrio" when the Cubans/Italians (these groups often cohabited) moved out and the Puerto Ricans or Mexicans moved in. LOL don't even get me started on Puerto Rican neighborhoods here in NY!!