Are there any affluent African American communities in south florida?

[compelled to reply]

Have any of you ever been to Pembroke Pines or Miramar before? Yes, even the fancy gated communities way out west.

[vvolin]

My affluent African American friends live intermixed with every other affluent resident. I have not noticed a specific area where ethnicity clusters, unless one considers the economically disadvantaged groups, which are, unfortunately, still skewed toward African Americans and some immigrant origins.

[tankev]

I hate to sound stupid but can someone explain the difference between a white Hispanic and a non white Hispanic? I have always thought it was just Hispanic. Is it strictly about the color of ones skin. Is it also about the country one comes from? And can you give me examples? This comes up a lot on the Miami site and I would be scared to ask over there! I am sorry but I am about as white and waspy as you can get. I am really interested in all the different Latin cultures down here. Moving to So. FL has been a fabulous learning experience. My oldest and dearest friend is from Venezuela with parents from Spain. Growing up I never thought of discussing the topic with her. It just never came up and I never thought about it until now. Thanks
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[crisp444]

Originally Posted by tankev

I hate to sound stupid but can someone explain the difference between a white Hispanic and a non white Hispanic? I have always thought it was just Hispanic. Is it strictly about the color of ones skin. Is it also about the country one comes from? And can you give me examples? This comes up a lot on the Miami site and I would be scared to ask over there! I am sorry but I am about as white and waspy as you can get. I am really interested in all the different Latin cultures down here. Moving to So. FL has been a fabulous learning experience. My oldest and dearest friend is from Venezuela with parents from Spain. Growing up I never thought of discussing the topic with her. It just never came up and I never thought about it until now. Thanks
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If your Venezuelan friend was born of ethnic Spanish parents, she is "white" and therefore not racially different from you. You are "white non-Hispanic" and she is "white Hispanic." If you were to be in a relationship with her, it would not be inter-racial, but rather inter-ethnic.

When guessing what someone's race or racial admixture is, skin color is only part of it. You also look to facial structure and hair for a better indication. "White" people are light-skinned Caucasians. People of European origin are "white," and some Middle Eastern and western Asian (Turkey, Iran, Iraq, etc.) people are arguably "white" as well. "Hispanic" is a government-imposed label on a racially diverse group of people. Most Hispanic people in South Florida are of unmixed or relatively unmixed European origin ("white"), most Hispanic people in the NYC area are mulatto (mixed black/white origin), and most Hispanic people on the West Coast are mestizo (mixed white/Amerindian origin). However, there are "white" Hispanic people living all over the United States, in Latin America, and in Europe. Many people struggle with the idea that "Hispanic" is NOT a race, that there is no certain way that "Hispanic" people look, and that not all "Hispanics" in this country even speak Spanish well or at all. Many "Hispanics" are assimilated white Americans.

An exercise: guess who is "Hispanic" in the pictures below.




Answer: EVERYONE in the pictures is "Hispanic" and clearly we are of diverse racial origins.

[Momma_bear]

Originally Posted by tankev

I hate to sound stupid but can someone explain the difference between a white Hispanic and a non white Hispanic? I have always thought it was just Hispanic. Is it strictly about the color of ones skin. Is it also about the country one comes from? And can you give me examples? This comes up a lot on the Miami site and I would be scared to ask over there! I am sorry but I am about as white and waspy as you can get. I am really interested in all the different Latin cultures down here. Moving to So. FL has been a fabulous learning experience. My oldest and dearest friend is from Venezuela with parents from Spain. Growing up I never thought of discussing the topic with her. It just never came up and I never thought about it until now. Thanks
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Hispanic refers to people who come from a spanish background. Those people can be of any race, especially in the Caribbean and South America where races have mixed quite a bit.

I personally have a Cuban friend who is black and another Cuban friend who is white (blonde/blue eyed). Both are hispanic.

Hope this helps.

I don't worry much about race, but folks on this board seem hung up on it.

[Keeper]

Folks.. OK.. thread has been cleaned up and you can now continue to answer the OP. In the future please report anyone attempting to hijack a thread or is trolling.

[tankev]

Thanks for helping me understand. I think it is important to try and learn about other cultures. I hope my question didn't cause problems (post above).

[crisp444]

Originally Posted by tankev

Thanks for helping me understand. I think it is important to try and learn about other cultures. I hope my question didn't cause problems (post above).

I am glad to give an explanation to anyone who is willing to learn, like you. I'm pretty sure that the moderator that "cleaned up" this thread wasn't referring to you, but rather to another forumer that routinely enters threads about race/ethnicity to "stir up" the conversation.

[Chelsa1075]

I think we have to take everyone's views with a grain of salt. Color is a problem if you let it be a problem, no matter what race, creed or nationality you are. Some people will forever be ignorant to this subject unfortunately. We all have a certain amount of prejudice towards other people no matter who you are. That is a natrual fear of the unknown and from that choosing to believe the worst in people, because that is more or less how we are conditioned. All we can do is try to better our selves as people, because no matter what you do or say people (if they so choose) will stereotype, based on appearance. Crisp, I think that you explained it very well and very clean. I'm sure most people can appreciate that. I am going to take a guess that you or your family are from Spain, where most people there are light complected. I am a light complected puertorican and immediately get from people when they ask my descent "wow you don't look puertorican, you are so light and you speak so well" - I laugh it off, because my family from PR is every color under the rainbow. My Great Grandmother is as dark as they come with the hair and everything, my grandmother is a chocolate color and married a white cuban ended up with a yellow baby (my dad), who then married a Brazillian/German (my mother), who has blond hair and green eyes and then there is me, dark curly hair, very fair skin, but with what people may say is a typical latin womens body. Forgive me for my run on sentence - to piggy back on Crisp Hispanics come in all colors and sizes and is not a race. If anyone ever is in the post office you should check on the wall for the FBI's most wanted list. If it hasn't changed recently, everyone who is light complected is considered white (including asians) and everyone who is dark (including carribean Indians and spanish) is considered black at least in the eyes of the FBI. I think I may have just added to confusion here, but figured I would put in my thoughts.

[Chelsa1075]

Keeper I saw that a message of mine had been deleted and I'm not sure why. I just joined this and am finding this site very helpful and do not want to say anything that could cause any restrictions. Thank you.