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Old 04-22-2010, 08:09 AM
 
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Default Gifted Program at Broward County schools???

I was wondering if any parents have any information on this? My daughter is getting test (per teachers recommendation). I had more questions than the 1/2 hour conference alloted for. I am torn as I do not want my child to get "burned out" and get "turned off" of learning. However, I want her to be challenged and she does tell me she is bored at times. Has anyone's children been in this program- and if so what are the pros/cons?
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Old 04-22-2010, 08:38 AM
 
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I was wondering if any parents have any information on this? My daughter is getting test (per teachers recommendation). I had more questions than the 1/2 hour conference alloted for. I am torn as I do not want my child to get "burned out" and get "turned off" of learning. However, I want her to be challenged and she does tell me she is bored at times. Has anyone's children been in this program- and if so what are the pros/cons?
Is that costing you anything? I've heard several different stories about it costing an arme and a leg to take the test.
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Old 04-22-2010, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Weston, FL
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Chels- No (at least the teacher did not say anything about it). To be honest I am really torn about it. I am not sure how I feel about it- I spend so much time obsessing over education and then the teacher asks me that and I'm like "I knew she was really bright but gifted?" I felt kinda stupid about it. I really want my kids to be challenged academically but I also want them to be kids- play hand clapping at recess, ride their scooter outside for a couple hours, tell me funny stories about the kids at school, read for fun, fall and get hurt and get back up to play etc. etc. The last thing I want is to raise a robot. I am torn about the pros/cons. To be honest- if I could just find a way to supplement the arts more I would be fine with that.
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Old 04-22-2010, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Cooper City, by way of NYC
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Chels- No (at least the teacher did not say anything about it). To be honest I am really torn about it. I am not sure how I feel about it- I spend so much time obsessing over education and then the teacher asks me that and I'm like "I knew she was really bright but gifted?" I felt kinda stupid about it. I really want my kids to be challenged academically but I also want them to be kids- play hand clapping at recess, ride their scooter outside for a couple hours, tell me funny stories about the kids at school, read for fun, fall and get hurt and get back up to play etc. etc. The last thing I want is to raise a robot. I am torn about the pros/cons. To be honest- if I could just find a way to supplement the arts more I would be fine with that.
I think you are reading too much into the word - your idea of gifted may not be their idea - Not that your daughter isn't your idea of gifted but, I think you know what I mean.

Example - my boys go to catholic school and take the same City and state test the other kids do, but they don't teach to test much in catholic here. Anyway, my boys both tested in the 94th and 95th percentile of all of NY State - that is an average for all their tests - they both tested about 98% for math and 100% for grammer and reading - so that means what? only that they are in the top 5th and 6th percent of the state in know what is required of them. I pride myself on the boys being very intellegent (they are), but there is no gifted program in the school or I would allow them to be in it. My sons teachers always tell me that they are way above a lot of the kids in their class - I like hearing that. You are obviously doing a great job - I think you should let her take the test - ask about the homework load and see what that is about otherwise just let her stay an "A+" student in regular classes and you stimulate her at home!
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Old 04-22-2010, 09:21 AM
 
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Hi Nam,

I went to school in the Broward system 1 million years ago and was in the gifted program. My lkids went to private school when we were in Florida and placed in the "gifted" programs there. Similarly, they are in the gifted programs in public school here in MN. They were placed not merely on testing results, but also on other indicators - I know because my son has issues with certain math concepts but is in gifted math - I asked his teacher and she indicated he was in the program because of how he thinks logically, not because of his accuracy etc. Similarly my daughter turns in approximately 1/2 of her school work (because she cant find the other 1/2 - another issue) yet excels in gifted programs.

In all the circumstances their gifted programs have been pull out programs. They are pulled out for sessions during the week. So far gifted has not been an additional burden and does not require any additional time out of the classroom. Tests and other activities that are essential are not done during these time blocks. I was really concerned particularly with my son because he is a grade ahead of his age, has a difficult disposition, and can be very stubborn with doing schoolwork.
When I was in the program it was a separate class that had all classes together all day. But, we got to do so many neat things that the other students didnt. So, either can be enlightening to a student.

Because of this, you need to consider the program with all the information available. One half an hour is not enough to ascertain the information regaridng the program and address your questions. You will probably have to be more assertive and demand more time - but I would not quickly dismiss the idea and in fact would err on letting your daughter participate - at a minimum she would believe that she is exceptional and it might be a serious self confidence builder.
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Old 04-22-2010, 09:34 AM
 
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Hi Nam,

I went to school in the Broward system 1 million years ago and was in the gifted program. My lkids went to private school when we were in Florida and placed in the "gifted" programs there. Similarly, they are in the gifted programs in public school here in MN. They were placed not merely on testing results, but also on other indicators - I know because my son has issues with certain math concepts but is in gifted math - I asked his teacher and she indicated he was in the program because of how he thinks logically, not because of his accuracy etc. Similarly my daughter turns in approximately 1/2 of her school work (because she cant find the other 1/2 - another issue) yet excels in gifted programs.

In all the circumstances their gifted programs have been pull out programs. They are pulled out for sessions during the week. So far gifted has not been an additional burden and does not require any additional time out of the classroom. Tests and other activities that are essential are not done during these time blocks. I was really concerned particularly with my son because he is a grade ahead of his age, has a difficult disposition, and can be very stubborn with doing schoolwork.
When I was in the program it was a separate class that had all classes together all day. But, we got to do so many neat things that the other students didnt. So, either can be enlightening to a student.

Because of this, you need to consider the program with all the information available. One half an hour is not enough to ascertain the information regaridng the program and address your questions. You will probably have to be more assertive and demand more time - but I would not quickly dismiss the idea and in fact would err on letting your daughter participate - at a minimum she would believe that she is exceptional and it might be a serious self confidence builder.
Great response - I really never thought about it that way but it really makes sense about the logic - I was in a Gifted Program as a youngster too. I'm wondering now if my boys will be when I get there - Now I'm going to call the schools and see if the schools they may go to have gifted programs.
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Old 04-22-2010, 10:37 AM
 
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We were still in Miami when my kids hit kindergarten and both were placed in the gifted magnet school that taught to these kids full-time. It was really awesome in kindergarten as the teacher 'got it,' plus there were only 5 kids in the classroom! By 1st grade, more parents had discovered it and the teacher was not as sophisticated so she gave them a lot of busy work and I ended up pulling my son out, trying a gifted school in Tampa and then returning to Broward and placed him in Sagemont (which did an awesome job as well, btw thru 3rd grade and then we had another poor teacher and I ended up homeschooling my son for half of that year). They finally ended up at Heritage where things went smoothly overall through the end of high school.

Anyway, it's a journey, but having both kids challenged kept them from tuning out at school and both have found their passions and are headed in creative, productive directions. I HIGHLY encourage you to pursue this both for their sake and frankly, the sake of the planet, lol. The more talented people we have in the future, the better off we'll all be. The gifted are in the top 3% in intelligence and it is important for their happiness overall to make sure they're stimulated. Plus, they meet more kids like themselves and have terrific friendships. Gifted kids are talented in athletics, music, academics, are highly empathetic, and are more sensitive to color and touch. Teachers who teach these programs have received additional training and are educated in their differences. And, these kids are as different from the norm as kids 2 deviations below the norm (the mentally handicapped), however they're often unrecognized.

Get the testing, get your kids in the proper programs and you'll never look back, I promise. This website was really helpful to me as I was going through it: Hoagies' Gifted Education Page
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Old 04-22-2010, 10:48 AM
 
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We were still in Miami when my kids hit kindergarten and both were placed in the gifted magnet school that taught to these kids full-time. It was really awesome in kindergarten as the teacher 'got it,' plus there were only 5 kids in the classroom! By 1st grade, more parents had discovered it and the teacher was not as sophisticated so she gave them a lot of busy work and I ended up pulling my son out, trying a gifted school in Tampa and then returning to Broward and placed him in Sagemont (which did an awesome job as well, btw thru 3rd grade and then we had another poor teacher and I ended up homeschooling my son for half of that year). They finally ended up at Heritage where things went smoothly overall through the end of high school.

Anyway, it's a journey, but having both kids challenged kept them from tuning out at school and both have found their passions and are headed in creative, productive directions. I HIGHLY encourage you to pursue this both for their sake and frankly, the sake of the planet, lol. The more talented people we have in the future, the better off we'll all be. The gifted are in the top 3% in intelligence and it is important for their happiness overall to make sure they're stimulated. Plus, they meet more kids like themselves and have terrific friendships. Gifted kids are talented in athletics, music, academics, are highly empathetic, and are more sensitive to color and touch. Teachers who teach these programs have received additional training and are educated in their differences. And, these kids are as different from the norm as kids 2 deviations below the norm (the mentally handicapped), however they're often unrecognized.

Get the testing, get your kids in the proper programs and you'll never look back, I promise. This website was really helpful to me as I was going through it: Hoagies' Gifted Education Page
Fauve - I swear you are my hero! I had no idea about any of this - I was in a TAG program as a child - I always thought of myself as just slightly above average in book smarts, but I know now that may not be the case - my boys are very much what you just described - I have to be a proud parent for a moment and share - my baby won the Math Bee in his school 3rd grade agains 4th and he won!! He was so happy - I loved that he feels it is cool to be smart - that is a giant plus, so being around kids like him is great because they all pretty much appreciate eachother. His teacher did say he was a little lazy though and that if he actually applied himself that it would be a scary thing - he does well without trying and it bothers the teacher but he is such a likable kid that she doesn't pick on him but she does make a point that not all kids are as skilled and she tells me he is a bit of a leader and that the kids want to be like him - he finishes his work in class and then just walks around - WHAT - where are you walking to - nowhere mommy - i'm just bored - I can't even get mad because he is serious - he is bored - hopefully they will be put into a progam like this.
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Old 04-22-2010, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Weston, FL
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Hi Nam,

I went to school in the Broward system 1 million years ago and was in the gifted program. My lkids went to private school when we were in Florida and placed in the "gifted" programs there. Similarly, they are in the gifted programs in public school here in MN. They were placed not merely on testing results, but also on other indicators - I know because my son has issues with certain math concepts but is in gifted math - I asked his teacher and she indicated he was in the program because of how he thinks logically, not because of his accuracy etc. Similarly my daughter turns in approximately 1/2 of her school work (because she cant find the other 1/2 - another issue) yet excels in gifted programs.

In all the circumstances their gifted programs have been pull out programs. They are pulled out for sessions during the week. So far gifted has not been an additional burden and does not require any additional time out of the classroom. Tests and other activities that are essential are not done during these time blocks. I was really concerned particularly with my son because he is a grade ahead of his age, has a difficult disposition, and can be very stubborn with doing schoolwork.
When I was in the program it was a separate class that had all classes together all day. But, we got to do so many neat things that the other students didnt. So, either can be enlightening to a student.

Because of this, you need to consider the program with all the information available. One half an hour is not enough to ascertain the information regaridng the program and address your questions. You will probably have to be more assertive and demand more time - but I would not quickly dismiss the idea and in fact would err on letting your daughter participate - at a minimum she would believe that she is exceptional and it might be a serious self confidence builder.
thank you for the info! I will have to see how this all pans out
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Old 04-22-2010, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Weston, FL
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To all the responders--thank your for understanding. As a young mom- all my friends either have younger kids or no kids at all so I have no one to talk to about my concerns. They also don't "understand" why I make issues out out things- I'm like hello- these are our KIDS- like our future-- don't we all want the best???

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