Cape Coral, FL. (Marco Island, Lee: selling a house, buyer, construction)

[dreamofmonterey]

BTW they are screaming for RN's down here...
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lol- they can scream all they want. 30.00 an hour isnt going to get a good R.N. -lol.

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Originally Posted by sunnyhelena

Hiknapster- all that you say is true. But- HOW will this ever change?. There is NO industry in Florida. Legislators care not about what happens- people are quoting unemployment stats (LOL!!!) in Florida- I met people with young children, house rich, no health insurance- How long can THAT last?

The survivors in Florida are in Palm Beach, Naples (Judge Judy) anyone trying to work and raise a family there will have no chance.

That is very true !!

[dreamofmonterey]

lol- yeah I am sure Judge Judy will be helping her son get a job at the airport down there.

[hiknapster]

And let's put this thread here, too, since the "Cape Coral Chamber of Commerce" chose to overlook it.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/flori...ast-bucks.html

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Originally Posted by NYBill

I would look at the area surrounding the airport. If you think that is just going to be support services for the airport you might be in for a rude awakening.

I saw the same thing happen around Long Island's Mc Arthur airport in Islip. There is so many industry's in the local areas that depend on having an airport close to there home base. Hauppage, Islip and surrondings aresa have pleanty of high tech indusrty around besides the support services for the airport.

That will mean people coming and growing which = more growth for the area. They will attract other people with who fit there needs to support there own growth.

The one thing I noticed about Fl is that if your not a FD or PD or Sheriff/Cor Officer everyone thinks there is nowhere else to go. I have also noticed that they lack an entustatic work force. In fact palin LAZY!!!

You create an atmosphere where people can make a decent living, good benifits and promise growth you will attract a better resouce for employment.

Honestly, I have worked since I am 16 and was never afraid of trying to make living and an extra buck. I do not hold a college degree but had a good very trade while living in NY.
I have been here going on 2 years and every time you try and hire someone to do a simple job they come up with more excuses then I have ever heard. In simple words the local worker wants everything for nothing and there trades skills suck
IMHO it seems to me that the worker coming in from out of state is more motivated to work then the locals and used to working a 40 hour week as a mainstay.

The best part is the locals who have been in bussiness for while here talk to like you where born under a rock and will buy anything they try and sell you.

I have heard more success stories of people coming from out of state and actually doing better then where they came from. For the simple reason they worked hard to make it.

My original electrican, who is from Conn originally, came here, worked for a contactor for about 18 months when he first came down, got the lay of the land and familair with building codes. Then ventured out on his own. Started with him and his partner with 2 trucks, which = 2 mechanics and 2 helpers, that was in 2000.

He now has 50 on hands people working for him, 25 mechanics and 25 helpers, few dozen trucks, full time office staff, Then add a few draftsman, and enginners for bidding, then just built 100,000 square foot building off Pine Island Road to put everyhting under one roof.

I could go on about people I know who have made a great living down here but committed themselves to making a living before going fishing or being hungover.

Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong being a Fireman or Police Officer but there is also places being devoloped fitting there/your needs. You are not going to get rich buy either profession but you will make a decent living, have benifits and a pension plan.

I even heard of one contractor paying a bonus if the worker showed up 5 days in a row.

Bottom line the work ethic is terrible here. Come in here a hustle a bit and you can do very well.

BTW they are screaming for RN's down here, pay not be the same as where you are used to but there is NO STATE TAX out of your paycheck. If coming from good old NY you know what you pay in NYS TAX!!!

I just find this funny, I do think he's from New York and will be working in the if built 110 million dollar office !
http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs....20332/1003/ACC

[hiknapster]

I don't think NYBill will be working. I bet he is a retiree. It's easy to criticize the workforce when you are no longer working. Especially if you came from up North where you made a great wage, possibly even working for a union.

[dreamofmonterey]

I even heard of one contractor paying a bonus if the worker showed up 5 days in a row.

Bottom line the work ethic is terrible here. Come in here a hustle a bit and you can do very well....
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sounds like a sales pitch to me.

[hiknapster]

Originally Posted by sunnyhelena

I even heard of one contractor paying a bonus if the worker showed up 5 days in a row.

Bottom line the work ethic is terrible here. Come in here a hustle a bit and you can do very well....
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sounds like a sales pitch to me.

Look Sunny, if you contact NYBill, he will PERSONALLY show you his place. Has still not told us where he plans to move to.

V20, well, he has had MANY properties in the area. He told me that he has bought and sold many and made a great profit. I think this is wonderful. Capitalism at its best! My hats off to V20!

But what properties you two are left with, well, that is capitalism at its best, too.

Live with it.

[dreamofmonterey]

yep. So you need those buyers with 3 or 4 homes, and muy rico, rico suave. Then when/if they move in, they can rip out the kitchen, put in all new granite and marble and another story on the house (after paying their HOA and attorney to fight the HOA rules-so they can live in their palace). (In the Florida market a house over 5 years old is trash)

btw these are not people with kids, or a family. They eat, drink and sleep real estate only. Aha- that is one way to survive in S. Florida, by George.

[NYBill]

Originally Posted by hiknapster

New York Bill:

You should work for the Cape Coral Chamber of Commerce.

I love New Yorkers. Half of my family is from New York, my dad was born in the Bronx.

So I know a bull_____ when I see a bull_____.

Don't insult the local workers.

My husband and I have worked hard all our lives. I lived in Lee County for seven years, not two, and my husband lived there for 25. He grew up there. He was one of the best auto mechanics in the area.

We left because housing prices far-outstripped wages.

It is what it is.

Look towards the airport? Why? Is some corporate conglomerate coming in?

Resort to another way to sell that house.

Maybe I am generalizing to much. Maybe your husband is a good hard worker along with being a good car mechanic, but in reality try to get someone to show up on time or no less complete the job on time at your home. Me personnaly I have seen a crew not show up becuase the BITE is on or better yet not come back from lunch and when they did come back it was just to pack up the tools and they stewed to the hat. Needless to say they where fired on the spot.

Maybe this slow down in building will weed out the wanna bees contractors and then you will find someone realiable, trustworthy and stands buy there contract.



I have some other people who come from other areas of the states that say the same thing. One person is a construction manager (comm) who sees many jobs and it's a rareity for the same people to show up from job to job or even be consistent enough to show up 5 days in a row. Maybe the owner of the company is the same but as far as workers go it's hard to hold onto them whether it be wages, benifits or just plain laziness in not showing up

Apparently you are not familair with McArthur Airport on Long Island. It is about the size of the old airport here but has many small buildings surronding the airport for commercail use. Some of these company are small but none the less they occupy comm space and depend on the convience of having an airport literally in there backyard. Not only for shipping purposes but getting on a plane for a meeting and being able to get back the same day.

If you think I am trying to sell my home your wrong. If I spot someone who might be interested and it lets me move up why not.

BTW I do not work as I am retired due to back and neck surgery at age 51. I would of loved to saty working at my trade but this was something I couldn't controll.
There are going to more oppertunities for people with college degrees, high tech jobs, small manufactours and bussiness generated around that airport. They have been clearing land, doing the underground work for utitlies and have renederings of what the area will look like when completed.