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Old 11-05-2009, 09:48 PM
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I typed a humorous, tongue-in-cheek post about marrying a rich man in Naples and you went off on a tangent about the Lord, greed & sin because it went over your head.

Why did I say I stopped reading after you told me I don't understand God? Because it has to be the #1 unChristian thing you can say to another person.

If you really believe in Heaven, then you know when you finally stand before God, He isn't going to ask about someone else's life. However, I'm pretty sure He's going to want to know about every detail of your life. So stop judging and start looking inside for the love you preach. I hope you find peace.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:31 PM
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I typed a humorous, tongue-in-cheek post about marrying a rich man in Naples ...
Oh, I'm sorry!, I thought you were being serious about that rich man post! Pah, that's what happen's when you've been in a deep mindset for some time, and looking at things that way......then coupled with the way you came off from the second post, made it all seem like ...well...blame the internet for another misunderstood reply. ..now that I reread it, I can see how 'serious' you really were- hah, obvious, my mistake - you see though, I'm so used to people being this way... it's just not right, normal by today's standards, but far from right... I'm glad your not!...and honestly how many ''Christian's" are going around talking about how much they "understand" God and haven't even read the book? As with most religions, many don't really know what they're talking about, and should be educated about the truth. And I said that remark only b/c I believed you truly believed in your little 'billionaire-affair''..view it from my angle,..though I'm not sure why i didn't catch the theme in the first place...hmmph, shoulda caught it at the 'pre- nups'..though of course, that was some good advise . ..I don't know about that being the #1 unchristian thing you can say,a loooot of people do not understand God and that is the truth. Oh, I know, only god can judge, and only you is he judging, though, even Jesus worried about his fellow man and their judgement before God, he, as I , would wish that favor in God's eyes befell all men. May all come to know peace.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:59 AM
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when someone is saying something that appears to be foolish or stupid or whatever, a good skill to acquire is to assume you are misunderstanding, and continue to respond with kindness and humour...in all things. Saves you from much embarrassment. There are many ways to say someone is bull of BS without being rude.

Another reason to go to Harvard is to develop a social circle that won't bore you. The usual pattern for persons with IQs above 150 is to drift into social isolation after stopping school, and then social skills and social sensativity starts to diminish, which starts the downward spiral into reality disconnect and mental illness.

Frankly, you are probably already doomed unless you find the discipline to impose a severe course correction. I know a number of very high IQ persons who have minds as nimble as yours, and they are all wash outs. IQ above a certain point is wasted if it encumbers your data percieving/gathering capacity and skill at reading and influencing others. Entrepreneurship will not be possible.

From the position of the professors chair, there are endless possibilities for consulting contracts and starting businesses. The key is to create a stable income stream (to be able to borrow against) without the inconvenience of a boss who is monitoring your hours. Very few professions permit this.

Your key challenge will be personal stability. Get a dog, find a naturally happy (unneurotic) smart Christian or Jewish girl who will keep an eye on you, build a man-gang, stay with the music but find a sport of some kind, have children.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:05 AM
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Most of them are not widows. That is not what they are about. In fact, you can be 50 to join. And there is a younger group, also. The idea behind them is social in nature, but based on a poem that states that when one is older they can do as they like.
thanks for the clarification...I guess the wish fathered the thought.

my only knowledge of them is standing with them on historic home tours.

at the time I thought, what a wonderful response to the problem of isolation after becoming a widow...setting up a network that could continue after losing the husband.

I would be very disappointed to find out that they drifted out of the organization once becoming widowed.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:33 AM
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The rental ad would say - 2 bedroom apartment, must have dog. I just don't have the time or energy to be bothered doing it.

so what do you do w/ ur time/energy? If i may ask..
most of the time goes to the job up north, which is pretty cool, giving policy advice on a hot politicized file, working for a boss 3000 miles away and supporting a management chain that I respect...for once.

I am however fed up with the weather, we can afford to take early retirement, and the wife and I are very close to pulling the rip cord so that we can spend more time in Florida, maybe all our time, if I can figure out something to do down there.

My accidental passion in life is poking my nose into people lives and making suggestions as to how they might be happier...or at least, avoid disaster.n Havn't figured out how to turn that into a business model yet.

on that....Something you need to pay particular attention to is building your circle of love, as the end game of life. ...Mostly wife, (children - we forgot to do that!), dogs, kin (find a way to practise honouring your parents), friends, neighbours, but as well collegues.

The money is without value unless it supports these primal hungers. The money is without value unless it supports these primal hungers. The money is without value unless it supports these primal hungers. This is not something that comes naturally to me, but that takes up most of the non-work time. Mostly its marital "couch duty" watching fox news and rubbing my wife's feet! I don't allow myself to take up interests or hobbies that are solitary.

While I am on this particular rant...invest in your marketability, my advice is marry up, possibly way up, and then work hard to be worthy, and viciously, pathologically, protect the vow you make, once you do it.

There are plenty of billionaire daughters at Harvard to chase, though Yale is even better...and to be worthy of...there I go again about Harvard. Old smart money likes taking rough but extreme talent and merging it into the family business. Usefullness = power = money
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:35 AM
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I would be very disappointed to find out that they drifted out of the organization once becoming widowed.
Not at all. When they become widowed the group acts as a sort of support group. I've always been impressed with that organization. I worked with them when I was an assistant manager of a "mature" ladies clothing store. Also, my step-mother is a member.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:33 AM
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when someone is saying something that appears to be foolish or stupid or whatever, a good skill to acquire is to assume you are misunderstanding, and continue to respond with kindness and humour...in all things. Saves you from much embarrassment. There are many ways to say someone is bull of BS without being rude.

Makes good sense to me - though, I'm quite sure if all of us were conversing in person, things would flow much more smoothly...wouldn't that be nice.
Another reason to go to Harvard is to develop a social circle that won't bore you. The usual pattern for persons with IQs above 150 is to drift into social isolation after stopping school, and then social skills and social sensativity starts to diminish, which starts the downward spiral into reality disconnect and mental illness.

Frankly, you are probably already doomed unless you find the discipline to impose a severe course correction. I know a number of very high IQ persons who have minds as nimble as yours, and they are all wash outs. IQ above a certain point is wasted if it encumbers your data percieving/gathering capacity and skill at reading and influencing others. Entrepreneurship will not be possible.

From the position of the professors chair, there are endless possibilities for consulting contracts and starting businesses. The key is to create a stable income stream (to be able to borrow against) without the inconvenience of a boss who is monitoring your hours. Very few professions permit this.

Your key challenge will be personal stability. Get a dog, find a naturally happy (unneurotic) smart Christian or Jewish girl who will keep an eye on you, build a man-gang, stay with the music but find a sport of some kind, have children.
A lot of what you say is entirely right, some wrong for my situation. Also, I see humiliation as a good thing, as it teaches humility. Further, may I apologize to all for MY ignorance. May we continue to grow together.
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:24 PM
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Not at all. When they become widowed the group acts as a sort of support group. I've always been impressed with that organization. I worked with them when I was an assistant manager of a "mature" ladies clothing store. Also, my step-mother is a member.
its clear that this organization fills a gap

next step is for someone to build a physical environment around it so that the singles (widowed or not) can have a safe, dignified place to live in community. The trick will be figuring out just the right distance from each other or maybe offering a range of options.

I am particulary interested in this, seeing how isolated by widowed mother is, in spite of same-town support from siblings and myself.
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:25 PM
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well, learning to cope with humiliation is one thing, purposefully seeking it out is another.
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:43 PM
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its clear that this organization fills a gap

next step is for someone to build a physical environment around it so that the singles (widowed or not) can have a safe, dignified place to live in community. The trick will be figuring out just the right distance from each other or maybe offering a range of options.

I am particulary interested in this, seeing how isolated by widowed mother is, in spite of same-town support from siblings and myself.
Is your mother in swFlorida?

Quite frankly, I see miles and miles of places like that down there. They may not specify that they cater to "widows or widowers" but they are included. I made friends with and knew many and they mostly lived in over-55 communities and made many friends and had oodles of activities. Even if it was not an over-55 community, they were surrounded by people such as themselves and they were quite happy.

Above all else, swFlorida is excellent for retirees. Well, most of it, anyway.

It's funny, but while reading these posts, what occured to me was a dating service. Perhaps for the older folks. Perhaps for the millionaires.
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