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Old 05-10-2010, 03:01 PM
 
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What does any of this have to do with a main stream media that takes its daily stories directly from the Obama administration. It may as well be the Tass news agency.

Oh, I'm sorry. I guess the families of the 11 workers who died are comforted by knowing this whole story about the oil spill was fabricated by the liberal media. It's all a big lie and their loved ones will be home for dinner tonight.

I also suppose the College of Marine Science, University of South Florida is part of this big Obama conspiracy.

[URL="http://ocg6.marine.usf.edu/%7Eliu/Drifters/latest_rtofs.htm"]The Deepwater Horizon oil spill trajectory hindcast/forecast based on RTOFS (Atlantic)[/URL]

This must be a Liberal website too. After all, it reports

GOVERNOR CRIST, ATTORNEY GENERAL MCCOLLUM CALL FOR OIL SPILL LEGAL ADVISORY COUNCIL (http://www.flgov.com/release/11581 - broken link)
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Old 05-10-2010, 03:13 PM
 
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Oh, I'm sorry. I guess the families of the 11 workers who died are comforted by knowing this whole story about the oil spill was fabricated by the liberal media. It's all a big lie and their loved ones will be home for dinner tonight.

I also suppose the College of Marine Science, University of South Florida is part of this big Obama conspiracy.

The Deepwater Horizon oil spill trajectory hindcast/forecast based on RTOFS (Atlantic)

This must be a Liberal website too. After all, it reports

GOVERNOR CRIST, ATTORNEY GENERAL MCCOLLUM CALL FOR OIL SPILL LEGAL ADVISORY COUNCIL (http://www.flgov.com/release/11581 - broken link)
Still, your response has nothing to do with the media not mentioning that about half of the oil is being cleaned up. I never said this wasn't a disaster. I started the thread about being worried about the spill.
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Old 05-10-2010, 06:02 PM
 
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The socialist State
So now any country that has some type of government run healthcare is "Socialist" and they're all in cahoots with President Obama? I see. Yikes, it's a global conspiracy. I guess my high school history teacher who told me that Canada is a Constitutional Monarchy and a Parliamentary Democracy was also part of this grand collaboration! It must mean that Rupert Murdoch is also a Socialist, and the worst kind, since he was born in Melbourne, started News Corp in Australia, and expanded it to Great Britain before taking over just about every form of national media in the USA. OMG! Fox is a socialist news channel! Seriously, I think it's a riot when people say the "mainstream media" is controlled by Liberals when News Corp owns more than 30 TV & cable networks and 20+ newspapers.
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Old 05-10-2010, 08:09 PM
 
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CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, Headline News, AOL News, and about 90% of the country's newspapers, Associated Press, Reuters vs. FOX and talk radio.

Europe and Canada are more socialized than I want the US to be. How are the socialist policies working out for Greece, Portugal and Spain? We will be in the same boat if we continue down the socialist road.
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Old 05-10-2010, 08:10 PM
 
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Back to oil. Why aren't they using the hay to sop up the oil?
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:02 PM
 
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Back to oil. Why aren't they using the hay to sop up the oil?
Why do I believe that someone is working on the official answer (excuse) for that right now?....

But most likely the bottom line is there just isnt any $$$$$ in it for those that stand to make the most of (or from) the situation.....

I'm surprised someone actually viewed the video, it really does show a lot of promise, wonder why the media hasnt picked up on that? Even if it didnt clean up 100%, it sure looks like it gets 99% without a lot of effort or expense.

On the paralell issue, there are thousands of newspapers in the US, and hundreds of cable networks........NewsCorp owns an incredibly tiny fraction of those. Wonder who controls the remainder?

Just a rhetorical question, really I dont care. For the record I am an equal opportunity cynic. Left or Right, they're both taking us to a place we will regret being. To me the debate seems to be over which flavor one prefers, reminds me of the "less filling/tastes great" debate. At times I find it quite amusing. I've a feeling the PTB do as well..........

They're laughing all the way to the bank, while we bicker amongst ourselves and point fingers.

They're laughing all the way to the bank, while we eagerly await their "solution" to the problems they manufactured, so we can be manipulated into paying more taxes, fees, and passing more "regulatory" laws that put more small business under the bus, because only the big corps can afford the "licenses". Think about it....

YC.......


Edit..........Less filling!

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Old 05-11-2010, 09:46 AM
 
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Lake Okeechobee releases input needed: Editorial | news-press.com | The News-Press

Hold back on any releases until we see what is happening with the oil spill. A timely release may keep oil away from the mouth of the Caloosahatchee River.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse...._rs.547095.pdf

Latest map of oil spill. Seems like it is about the same.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:48 PM
 
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http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse...._rs.547095.pdf

Latest map of oil spill. Seems like it is about the same.
Sounds like it is encroaching on Pensacola>>>
Oil Spill: Pensacola Florida makes plans to block | Tampa Bay, St. Petersburg, Clearwater, Sarasota | WTSP.com 10 Connects

http://download.gannett.edgesuite.ne...iana/index.htm


Pensacola, Florida -

Escambia County commissioners on Friday declared a local state of emergency in response to the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico headed this way.

"If it gets into our bays or bayous, it will devastate many businesses, and some may never be in business again if this happens," Commissioner Wilson Robertson said.
Robert Turpin, manager of Escambia County's Marine Resources Division, briefed commissioners at the emergency meeting on a plan to try to stop the oil from entering Pensacola Bay.

The plan is to use about 30,000 feet of boom - now at Pensacola Naval Air Station, a staging area for oil company BP's response to the slick - and BP's resources to set up a "V-shaped" barrier across East Pensacola Pass to catch the oil.

Graphic: Plan to block oil spill

"Like the old saying goes, 'Cut it off at the pass,'" Robertson said.
"We have not had an opportunity to implement our own strategy, and I think we began to see the writing on the wall that it was going to come," Robinson said. "I think the idea our staff has come up with to keep it out of the bay is the right way.

"Local government can solve these problems. If they will give us the tools, we will make good decisions."

http://www.wtsp.com/news/mostpop/sto...9&provider=top

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Old 05-12-2010, 08:33 PM
 
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Default Both sides in this debate may be right

I think now-a-days we have become so accustomed to yelling at each other that we fail to realize that both sides of an argument may be correct.

We need to put significant resources into 'getting off oil' for the following reasons:
-It undermines our national security by beholdening us to less than friendly regimes.
-It contributes massively to our trade deficit.
-Price volatility in the oil markets has detrimental effects on our economic stability and long-term growth.
-The burning of fossil fuels is contributing to climate change.
-It is not a long-term viable energy source; it is finite, and its cost will be every increasing
-Disasters are infrequent, but when they do occur they can be horrifically catastrophic.

We also need to drill for more oil domestically, however because;
-As we move away from powering our economy on oil, the remaining stockpiles will be needed as raw materials in the manufacturer of plastics, synthetics, chemicals and other products which can only be sourced from petroleum.
-The transition from oil will be a two to three decade process, and a bridge source of oil will be needed in the meantime.
-Oil is currently still the cheapest and most readily available source of vehicular energy; which will protect consumers in the short term and society in the mid term from the upheaval that would take place in moving quickly to another energy source.
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