Keller v Southlake v Colleyville (Houston, Dallas: apartment, new home, neighborhoods)
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i would pick Argyle, Justin, Grandview or Joshua....i dont like the yuppified towns of Southlake, Trophy Club, Colleyville etc....might as well be anywhere in California...lots of transplants. lost its Texas culture.......
Don't forget to look at Alvarado. A small town, for sure, but, I have a co-worker whose daughter just graduated there and she couldn't be happier. Now going to Hill jr. college nearby. Now the co-worker is tempted to bring down a messed up teenage niece up in Michigan and straighten her out with some small town Texas values. TCU would be about a 30 minute commute into Fort Worth. Cleburne, Joshua, Burleson all are nice towns. Burleson has a lot of the nat'l retail and restaurant chains. They are suppose to be building a future freeway out toward Cleburne from downtown Fort Worth making commutes shorter. My in-laws live near Granbury and are retired and like it a lot. They have conservative values and fit right in to that community.
For those interested in Burleson I thought I would pass this along. It is in the news right now and if you go to wfaa com you can find it on the main page. This might help those of you coming into Texas from other states see the wet/dry issue that is in most of Texas.
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"A similar measure meant to relax regulations failed two years ago. The city of Burleson is not only divided on the issue of beer and alcohol sales, but it's also split in other ways as well.
In south Burleson in Johnson County, consumers can't buy alcohol. But in north Burleson in Tarrant County, alcohol sales are legal.
"We've seen much better economic development in the Tarrant County side of Burleson than the Johnson County side," said Mayor Ken Shetter."
What Part of Los Angeles are you from? You mentioned that you relocated from Los Angeles to Phoenix 12 years ago. Why did you you move? I am from California and possibly thinking about relocating to the Dallas area. I have found that a lot of people from California have move to Texas. I can't quite say if that is a good thing or not? I have been following some of the threads here and I get the feeling that Californians are not welcomed with open arms in Texas. It is unfortunate, but I can't recall any thread that I have viewed Californians in a positive light. There may have been one or two people that were receptive, however, I believe they are Californians that have already relocated there or will be relatively soon. Since I don't live there, I can't imagine what has tainted our image so much. Thank God, I have visited Texas for myself. When I was there, I met plenty of wonderdul people that have total opposite views of Californians. As a matter of fact, they welcomed and encouraged the idea of moving to Texas and offered their assistance. I am not bashing these threads or anything like that, but I would like to once here someone with some positive feedback in regards to Californians if you could
I wish you and your family all the luck. Keep in touch and let me know where you might finally settle down.
I can't really say for sure if it is LA in Texas, but I can say that California is almost everywhere you go in Texas
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Originally Posted by cleopattrajones
We are originally from Los Angeles area. Moved to Phoenix 12 years ago. Now it's turning into LA here so we want to move to a more family oriented area also. We found Burleson which is about 10 miles South of Ft. Worth. From what we saw during our trip there, everyone was very friendly, it's a clean city with a mixture of home values. From high to low and the neighborhoods in the less expensive areas were still clean and taken care of. At least we didn't see any that weren't. We went to church there and the congregation was very friendly to us, more so than other cities we've visited.
We're looking forward to moving there.
Does anyone have any input on Burleson for us?
I feel the same way you do in that I have visited the Texas and love it for the people and way of life. I am also from California, but am from the Central Valley - Sacramento.
I can understand why Texans would be a little resentful of us Californians because to some extent I have that same feeling from having a HUGE influx of people that moved into our area from SF and LA.
The reason I personally want to leave Sacramento is that honestly, everyone that came from SF/LA and left for a reason ended up bringing with them the reason they left. A TON of traffic, crime and a more liberal lifestyle than we are used to. While it is great for housing values, I can't afford to live here anymore and honestly, the schools really are horrible. The California Teacher's Association has politicized our educational system to the extent that it just doesn't work. 50 kids in a classroom just isn't effective learning and that is what it has become in our area.
I honestly feel a little guilty about moving to Texas in the fact that by us moving there, I don't want to bring my garbage there, if that makes sense.
Hi, We moved to Phoenix because LA was too crowded. We saw so many gang members, graffitti, smog, traffic. We just didn't want to raise our daughter there. We lived in the Long Beach area. 12 years ago Phoenix was more of a true Western town. But in the past few years there has been so much growth that there are even new cities that have been built. The developers just scrape off the desert and build. So now the traffic here is getting worse, there are miles and miles of cookie cutter homes and the old west is getting bought out and paved over. We are just looking forward to a place that is greener and we're liking Burleson because there seems to be a nice mix of old and new. Plus it's close enough to FT Worth to go to work and also Dallas when we get the urge for a big city. The people everywhere we went in TX have been so nice too. Our son is now in middle school and we're anxious to get him into a smaller school where there are more family values than we seem to have here in Phx. It's a big move and kind of scary also, but we're more positive than negative about it. The property taxes are way high there too. But nothing can change that!! I enjoy this board, thanks all for your insights.
As a life-long Dallas resident and Native Texan, the issue about Californians moving in to Texas is that there is very little, if any, reflection as to why they left California other than "everything is too expensive" and "the cultural changes are bad."
But why and how did it get that way? And what can we do to make sure that Texas does not suffer the same changes?
They dismiss and look down on our "Bible Belt" culture (the culture outside of Dallas - many, many people in Dallas are from the East and West coasts), but then they move to Texas - we don't move there to California.
LastDallasNative - I totally agree with you. Its about assimilation rather than migrating and bringing everything you left to the new place you move to.
When we decided to move, we looked all over the country and chose Texas because of the values and morales of the area. We are moving because my husband got a promotion and will be handling accounts nationally, so he will be able to be home more because he won't have to travel across the country. Also it does give us the ability for me to continue to be a stay at home mom without compromising our retirement.
Being from California, I have more on one occasion winced while someone painted me with that broad brush of intolerance because they don't understand the state. You will find that the loudest voice of California comes from SF and LA areas. Very liberal areas, with the do what makes you feel good mentality.
I happen to be from a used to be small town in the valley that has been overrun by the migration out of the bay area.
If and when I do decide to move to Texas it will be for reasons other than trying to bring Cali with me. I happen to live in a very nice suberb outside of Orange County and I love where I live. I am not 100% sold that I want to be in Texas. I was just watching I believe Larry King the another night and one of the topics that was discussed were gangs. I was under the assumption that LA had the worst gang problems until the statistics were given on his show and Dallas by far had the worst gang problem than anywhere else in the US! I was surprised to learn this Of course I am going to do some more investigating myself. I remember hearing someone in the Arlington Mall mentioned something about gangs, but I did not pay much attention to their conversation because they were teenagers just having a group conversation with one another. Should I move to Texas, I am definately not going to feel guilty for moving there or validate why I came there in the first place.
I agree that the cost of living is higher in California along with the traffic and I believe that this is why many Californians have moved to various parts of
the country. However you must admit that California has so much to offer which is why so many people have moved here which has now made our traffic here on the highways a nightmare, but you don't here Californians complaining about all the people moving here The way I see it, you take the good with the bad. You can either except it or you don't have too, it is totally up to you. There is no perfect area in the US. Many Califormians
can't believe that I would even consider living in Texas. So many have said why not Colorado, or Utah, Texas is so flat and hot as ...... In my defense I have shared with them the great points about Texas that I observed and admired. When I came this summer to visit my family I really enjoyed many of the areas that I visited.
We are taking our time to make sure this is where we want to go. Safety is a big issue as well as a family living and an excellent school district and a wonderful church that we can be a part of is a must!
Take Care!
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Originally Posted by Guingirl
LastDallasNative - I totally agree with you. Its about assimilation rather than migrating and bringing everything you left to the new place you move to.
When we decided to move, we looked all over the country and chose Texas because of the values and morales of the area. We are moving because my husband got a promotion and will be handling accounts nationally, so he will be able to be home more because he won't have to travel across the country. Also it does give us the ability for me to continue to be a stay at home mom without compromising our retirement.
Being from California, I have more on one occasion winced while someone painted me with that broad brush of intolerance because they don't understand the state. You will find that the loudest voice of California comes from SF and LA areas. Very liberal areas, with the do what makes you feel good mentality.
I happen to be from a used to be small town in the valley that has been overrun by the migration out of the bay area.
I would avoid Colleyville if you want to stay away from snobs. I lived in Bedford for years and noticed that Colleyville is full of a lot of doctors and lawyer types that work in other parts of DFW (including my BIL). I like Grapevine and also parts of Bedford are nice and the schools very good. Also crime rate is very low in Bedford. I lived there for 20 years and never had a problem
I am a native Texan, born and raised in Irving(suburb of Dallas). My personal opinion after reading your post is that you would want to avoid moving to Southlake. The taxes are extremely high and it would definitely be considered "top tier". I personally would recommend Grapevine.
I would also recommend Grapevine; it's a beautiful city and has a lot going on.
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Since I don't live there, I can't imagine what has tainted our image so much. Thank God, I have visited Texas for myself. When I was there, I met plenty of wonderdul people that have total opposite views of Californians. As a matter of fact, they welcomed and encouraged the idea of moving to Texas and offered their assistance. I am not bashing these threads or anything like that, but I would like to once here someone with some positive feedback in regards to Californians if you could
Californians moving to Texas
Of course I am going to do some more investigating myself. I remember hearing someone in the Arlington Mall mentioned something about gangs, but I did not pay much attention to their conversation because they were teenagers just having a group conversation with one another. Should I move to Texas, I am definately not going to feel guilty for moving there or validate why I came there in the first place. 
In my defense I have shared with them the great points about Texas that I observed and admired. When I came this summer to visit my family I really enjoyed many of the areas that I visited. 
