Any FWISD teachers? Can you live on such a low salary! (Plano: buy, universities)

[Canine*Castle]

Originally Posted by loves2read

I don't understand why you keep beating this dead horse--
the TX legislature and the local tax base will never be in position financially or philosophically to have a pay scale like you envision...this is arguing about how many angels fit on the head of a pin...
did having astronomical salaries bring us better financial gurus on Wall Street or in the halls of Enron or the valley of silicon--don't think so--higher salaries do not axiomatically guarantee better quality or better caring ...whatever...check out the roster of the Dallas Cowboys or the Texas Rangers...

Very well said!!

[DWong]

Originally Posted by TXGator

What's your point? I just don't get it. You are no more a teacher. How long you have been a teacher? 10 years? After how long did you realize you made a mistake? Why did you wait so long? You have family members as teachers. They know the reality. As we usually say to our graduate students, if you feel you do not belong here, run!

How long.... only 2 years.... only bc the job market was VERY slow coming out of school and there's always a need for math/science instructors.

Not a mistake necessarily, but got a job in City Government. A little better pay and better benefits.

[DWong]

Originally Posted by loves2read

I don't understand why you keep beating this dead horse--
the TX legislature and the local tax base will never be in position financially or philosophically to have a pay scale like you envision...this is arguing about how many angels fit on the head of a pin...
did having astronomical salaries bring us better financial gurus on Wall Street or in the halls of Enron or the valley of silicon--don't think so--higher salaries do not axiomatically guarantee better quality or better caring ...whatever...check out the roster of the Dallas Cowboys or the Texas Rangers...

Pay scale I envision.... where TX is still back in the "older times" w/ the teacher salaries.....

Well here's what I propose... for one... you can't pay someone only $1,000 for a MS degree. Mathematically you'd be dumb to get one. It will take 12-18 years to get your $$$ back on it.

Many other states use a sliding scale... where you cap out w/ a BS fairly soon.

Teacher's who work 20 years deserve a better raise than $500 a month... seriously.. what other field r u going to work 20 years just to cover that.... just by inflation and cost of your medical care will wipe that out alone.

However, I do like when test scores do provide some sort of incentives.

[TXGator]

So, two years later, are we here expecting someone to have a post titled as: Any City Government employee? Can you live on such a low salary!

Originally Posted by DWong

How long.... only 2 years.... only bc the job market was VERY slow coming out of school and there's always a need for math/science instructors.

Not a mistake necessarily, but got a job in City Government. A little better pay and better benefits.

[Exult.Q36]

I dont understand the argument here. The man said that teachers in Texas public schools get paid crappy salaries compared to other states. Texas had a 10.7 billion Dollar surplus. Why couldn't the state put more money in our public school system.



What recession? Texas looking at $10.7 billion surplus | Business | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

[AmberMarie]

I think the argument here is-- duh. No one ever thought that teachers were overpaid! But some people do it for different reasons.

I agree about the MS thing. I thought that I would get mine because I am all about "knowledge is power." But I really hate my current job and want to be a teacher ASAP, and for only a thousand mroe per year, a master's is not worth it for me anymore.

[DWong]

Originally Posted by TXGator

So, two years later, are we here expecting someone to have a post titled as: Any City Government employee? Can you live on such a low salary!

Actually we are overpaid!

[DWong]

Originally Posted by AmberMarie

I think the argument here is-- duh. No one ever thought that teachers were overpaid! But some people do it for different reasons.

I agree about the MS thing. I thought that I would get mine because I am all about "knowledge is power." But I really hate my current job and want to be a teacher ASAP, and for only a thousand mroe per year, a master's is not worth it for me anymore.

In some places teachers ARE overpaid. In some areas of CA where cost of living is comparable to DFW.. the top pay step is $97 thousand.

This is 3 hrs from LA 2, hours from San Diego and a home costs $200k. NOt the boonies, but not a metro.

[DWong]

Originally Posted by AmberMarie

I think the argument here is-- duh. No one ever thought that teachers were overpaid! But some people do it for different reasons.

I agree about the MS thing. I thought that I would get mine because I am all about "knowledge is power." But I really hate my current job and want to be a teacher ASAP, and for only a thousand mroe per year, a master's is not worth it for me anymore.

My wife later found out (who earned her MS @ UT) that getting a masters in TX was about the worst thing. The cost was $12,000, not to mention time put in. The Student loan is $130 a month.... for $1000 a year from the ISD, or $75 take home.... So you're not even profitable for 25 years.... or more????

[AmberMarie]

And this is why I will have summer jobs before I have kids.