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Old 01-01-2010, 06:25 PM
 
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We are considering a home in Seventeen Lakes in Roanoke. I did find a thread from earlier 2009 about someone having very high electric bills and they live in Seventeen Lakes. I'm curious as to whether that is average for the area or just an issue with the house or meter.

I would appreciate any feedback about Seventeen Lakes and most importantly the utility bills, taxes and overall feel of the area.

Also any opinions at all about the Roanoke area are also greatly appreciated !

Thanks for your help !
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:45 PM
 
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The sales person from Drees stays over in chadwick farms and he says his bills are under $150. If you are looking at a new home, you should be expecting low e windows, radiant barrier and a 14-16 SEER a/c. I would be really aghast if the bills were any higher than $200 for a 2500 sq ft house.
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:17 PM
 
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I was looking at Chadwick Farms and Seventeen Lakes today and found out that Seventeen Lakes does not have gas run in the current phase they are selling. So, A/C ABD heating would be electric and you would not have a gas stove or a gas fireplace. Also, I was told that the A/C units are a lower seer number in Seventeen Lakes than in Chadwick Farms for now so all of those things combined would raise your electric bill quite a bit I think.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:33 AM
 
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I was looking at Chadwick Farms and Seventeen Lakes today and found out that Seventeen Lakes does not have gas run in the current phase they are selling. So, A/C ABD heating would be electric and you would not have a gas stove or a gas fireplace. Also, I was told that the A/C units are a lower seer number in Seventeen Lakes than in Chadwick Farms for now so all of those things combined would raise your electric bill quite a bit I think.
You have some rights and some wrongs there...

I am currently purchasing a Drees Home in Seventeen Lakes.

It is an all electric community. Right now there is only one phase but I have heard rumors that there will eventually be two others with a total of probably 400-500 homes at some point (Its called 17 lakes, there are in fact 17 bodies of water but only about 5 of them are in the current phase).

Gas doesn't save you much money on the stove or fireplace in but it does on the heating. It is an all electric community despite having multiple gas wells within spitting distance. Sandlin was the original developer and they didn't do gas for some reason. Bummer...

The AC units are completely dependent on the builder but most of the lots are Drees and all those homes get 16 SEER Lennox which is the best you fill find in the area. Grand uses 12 SEER and you can pay to upgrade to 14 SEER. I don't believe Sandlin even owns any lots there anymore.

My home is 3200 square feet. I expect my bill to run around $200 in the summer and $150 in the winter.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:46 AM
 
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whether there are gas wells within spitting distance of that development matters not--since well-head gas is not useable for buring in an HVAC gas furnace...
it is the matter of a gas pipleine from Arkla in the area that has useable gas that is important--
Probably there is not one in the immediate area--
which is why Sandlin did not pay to lay gas lines within the development

currently the price of NG is falling on the open market--which should correlate to seeing a reduced price for the NG used in homes--but not always--
like the price of gasoline at the pump does not always correlate to the price of oil on open market...

personally unless I was building a super efficient home with solar collectors and other energy-related products I would be reluctant to buy an all-electric home...
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:21 PM
 
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whether there are gas wells within spitting distance of that development matters not--since well-head gas is not useable for buring in an HVAC gas furnace...
it is the matter of a gas pipleine from Arkla in the area that has useable gas that is important--
Probably there is not one in the immediate area--
which is why Sandlin did not pay to lay gas lines within the development

currently the price of NG is falling on the open market--which should correlate to seeing a reduced price for the NG used in homes--but not always--
like the price of gasoline at the pump does not always correlate to the price of oil on open market...

personally unless I was building a super efficient home with solar collectors and other energy-related products I would be reluctant to buy an all-electric home...
I would prefer gas, don't get me wrong, but your savings aren't as high as you think. Most people in Texas only run there heat four months out of the year, therefore your major savings is in your water heater except for the four winter months.

A Water Heater uses about 15% of your home energy. On average a newer electric heater costs you about 50-70% more to run. Since Drees homes in the area are very energy efficient (spray on insulation would be that over the top...sadly not available) I would guess that electric doubles your water heater portion of your bill. So it it runs you an extra $15 a month.

The real saving is from gas come in the four winter months when you run heat as your ''heating" bill is going to be about $80 on an all electric plan and about $40 or so on a gas plan.

Based on my "very" preliminary research I would guess having gas would save you about $200-250 a year depending on how toasty you like it in the winter. Sure it adds up but it isn't astronomical and it wouldn't be enough to prevent me from purchasing a home.

Incidentally I do intend to put in a smaller solar system within about 5 years to offset the cost difference for water heater and make a small dent in the winter heating.
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:44 AM
 
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regarding Roanoke--
that area is developing into sort of restaurant mecca in the historic downtown area
several articles in local paper about it recently

it used to be just farm/pasture land but because of location to the growing I-35 Haslet/Alliance area, Southlake shopping, and the growing Denton area Roanoke's available land is developing much quicker and is becoming more that just tract-house city...for restaurants--
don't know much about the developments going in there themselves but think it is mainly tract housing--

and I would have to say that it is rolling prairie land for the most part--
wide-open, treeless, plain and if you are on I-35 and look at the distance much of the vistas are not that attractive...
it is a look that many people are just not prepared for because it is so very different from what they are used to...
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:20 PM
 
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Is seventeen lakes the area off 114 where the houses backup to the runway? You can fly in and taxi you personal aircraft into your drive/garage.
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Old 01-30-2012, 07:52 AM
 
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Is seventeen lakes the area off 114 where the houses backup to the runway? You can fly in and taxi you personal aircraft into your drive/garage.
No its between Roanoke "downtown" and chadwick farms.
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