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Old 01-30-2020, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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I was never one to initiate disrespect and misunderstanding. There were a handful of people who I did get along with and learned interesting things from. If there is something I'm missing, perhaps you, who presumably understands the mindset of people living "rural poor white communities," can explain why I was met with indifference at the least and ridicule at the worst upon encountering this demographic?
Unfortunately, there is something to be said for the point you are making. If you have an area that is overwhelmingly of a certain demographic, and someone from a different demographic comes in, that person is likely to be perceived as "the other" and treated as such. This is true for an Asian person in a white area, but it's also true for a white person in a black area, or a black person in an Hispanic area, and so on and so on. It's not right, but it's the way it is.

This discussion reminds me of an incident I happened to witness involving Asians in Cumberland. I remember it clearly because it involved Asians in Cumberland, which are about as rare a sighting as Bigfoot. I was on a bus, waiting for it to depart from the transfer point at Roses, and a young Asian couple came up to the door and asked the driver which bus went to Frostburg. The driver gave off the distinct vibe that he didn't want anything to do with them; he gave them a hurried, confusing answer about having to wait awhile and then taking a bus somewhere and then transferring to another bus to get there.

But here's the thing: there is a bus that goes directly from Cumberland to Frostburg -- and it was sitting right there immediately behind us! There is absolutely no way that the driver did not know this; after all, passengers arriving on my bus had transferred to it, and vice versa. I don't know if the driver was racist against Asians, or was just in a lousy mood at that moment; but it was clear that he was not only not helpful, he was actively unhelpful. I immediately got off the bus, pointed the two people to the Frostburg bus and saw them onto it, then came back aboard the bus I was riding. I didn't say anything to the driver . . . but as you can see, the incident made enough of an impression on me (and not in a good way) that I still remember it. (It happened something like 7 or 8 years ago, I believe.)

Keep in mind, I don't think I have ever been the recipient of anything other than friendliness, or at "worst" just plain courtesy, from anyone in Cumberland. My experiences there have always been positive. And I do not wish to imply that the attitude of this one person is reflective of the majority of people in Cumberland. But I think it's worth noting that when I am in Cumberland, I am not part of a racial minority. So my experiences are not necessarily going to be the same as someone else's might be.

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Old 01-30-2020, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Frederick, MD
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Unfortunately, there is something to be said for the point you are making. If you have an area that is overwhelmingly of a certain demographic, and someone from a different demographic comes in, that person is likely to be perceived as "the other" and treated as such. This is true for an Asian person in a white area, but it's also true for a white person in a black area, or a black person in an Hispanic area, and so on and so on. It's not right, but it's the way it is.

This discussion reminds me of an incident I happened to witness involving Asians in Cumberland. I remember it clearly because it involved Asians in Cumberland, which are about as rare a sighting as Bigfoot. I was on a bus, waiting for it to depart from the transfer point at Roses, and a young Asian couple came up to the door and asked the driver which bus went to Frostburg. The driver gave off the distinct vibe that he didn't want anything to do with them; he gave them a hurried, confusing answer about having to wait awhile and then taking a bus somewhere and then transferring to another bus to get there.

But here's the thing: there is a bus that goes directly from Cumberland to Frostburg -- and it was sitting right there immediately behind us! There is absolutely no way that the driver did not know this; after all, passengers arriving on my bus had transferred to it, and vice versa. I don't know if the driver was racist against Asians, or was just in a lousy mood at that moment; but it was clear that he was not only not helpful, he was actively unhelpful. I immediately got off the bus, pointed the two people to the Frostburg bus and saw them onto it, then came back aboard the bus I was riding. I didn't say anything to the driver . . . but as you can see, the incident made enough of an impression on me (and not in a good way) that I still remember it. (It happened something like 7 or 8 years ago, I believe.)

Keep in mind, I don't think I have ever been the recipient of anything other than friendliness, or at "worst" just plain courtesy, from anyone in Cumberland. My experiences there have always been positive. And I do not wish to imply that the attitude of this one person is reflective of the majority of people in Cumberland. But I think it's worth noting that when I am in Cumberland, I am not part of a racial minority. So my experiences are not necessarily going to be the same as someone else's might be.
Thank you for sharing. We can’t definitively know if cases like these are direct racism, but the possibility that it played a role is certain. Again, thanks for acknowledging my perspective.

I realize now that I was too harsh on westside; I was in a bit of a bad mood writing that a couple months back. I have actually enjoyed reading his posts while lurking around over the years as well.
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Old 01-30-2020, 01:52 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I'd forgotten about this thread.

I swear to Christ that Maryland has got to be the only state where people can drive through an area and see nothing but corn fields, chicken houses, watermen, cattle and horses and then claim that that area isn't rural and is really an urban area.

I do have to congratulate some of you. The Legislature overrode the Governor's veto of a bill removing the right of a person to appeal a denial by the Handgun Review Board.
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Old 10-31-2020, 09:21 AM
 
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Unfortunately, there is something to be said for the point you are making. If you have an area that is overwhelmingly of a certain demographic, and someone from a different demographic comes in, that person is likely to be perceived as "the other" and treated as such. This is true for an Asian person in a white area, but it's also true for a white person in a black area, or a black person in an Hispanic area, and so on and so on. It's not right, but it's the way it is.

This discussion reminds me of an incident I happened to witness involving Asians in Cumberland. I remember it clearly because it involved Asians in Cumberland, which are about as rare a sighting as Bigfoot. I was on a bus, waiting for it to depart from the transfer point at Roses, and a young Asian couple came up to the door and asked the driver which bus went to Frostburg. The driver gave off the distinct vibe that he didn't want anything to do with them; he gave them a hurried, confusing answer about having to wait awhile and then taking a bus somewhere and then transferring to another bus to get there.

But here's the thing: there is a bus that goes directly from Cumberland to Frostburg -- and it was sitting right there immediately behind us! There is absolutely no way that the driver did not know this; after all, passengers arriving on my bus had transferred to it, and vice versa. I don't know if the driver was racist against Asians, or was just in a lousy mood at that moment; but it was clear that he was not only not helpful, he was actively unhelpful. I immediately got off the bus, pointed the two people to the Frostburg bus and saw them onto it, then came back aboard the bus I was riding. I didn't say anything to the driver . . . but as you can see, the incident made enough of an impression on me (and not in a good way) that I still remember it. (It happened something like 7 or 8 years ago, I believe.)

Keep in mind, I don't think I have ever been the recipient of anything other than friendliness, or at "worst" just plain courtesy, from anyone in Cumberland. My experiences there have always been positive. And I do not wish to imply that the attitude of this one person is reflective of the majority of people in Cumberland. But I think it's worth noting that when I am in Cumberland, I am not part of a racial minority. So my experiences are not necessarily going to be the same as someone else's might be.
I'm not white and I live in Frederick County. I've noticed this kind of passive-aggressive racist type of behavior as well.
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Old 11-15-2020, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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I'm not white and I live in Frederick County. I've noticed this kind of passive-aggressive racist type of behavior as well.
I had forgotten about his thread as well until this post bumped it. The story described above with regard to the bus driver disgusts me. I'm sorry to read that you have experienced things like that as well.
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