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Old 02-09-2011, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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mfw there's no public transit where i live and the hills are too steep to navigate on bike: =((((((
the problem isn't that people don't want to give up their cars; it's that most of us can't!

 
Old 02-09-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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This may help narrow the focus of this thread......
It would help if you could change the title of the thread... (huge waste of viewing for many). I will venture to guess 50% of the ''traffic on "Frugal" are rural dwellers, or those who need their own cars for legitimate reasons; work, medical, hobbist, lazy...


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I don't believe that rural living will be practical as a bicycle only way of life until the number of vehicles on our two lane roads declines due to super high fuel prices.
Maybe that is why it works so well in Europe... Rural dwellers can own a Tractor (or Unimog) and a Bicycle + the PASSENGER train comes through the village every hour. Provisioners or shops deliver purchased goods directly to your address.

I did many yrs via bike, but with several friends being killed or maimed, I prefer my 50 mpg StealthRabbit (rescued for $35 total capital expenditure). The heat and windshield wipers are kinda nice in a climate that rains 285 days / yr. But I'm paying dearly for that luxury (please send me your waste fryer grease, for my free fuel)

Tires $5 at salvage yard (once every several yrs) insurance is the killer @ $20 / month.
 
Old 02-09-2011, 02:50 PM
 
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Before the vast majority can save serious $ by riding bikes, we as a nation need to spend serious $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ rethinking how we live and develop. Until then, the infrastructure for many to go "car free" simply doesn't exist. There is no car share to borrow from when the need arises. There is no reliable public transportation available 24/7. You can't do all the necessary shopping by bike. Etc., etc. etc.

Even if you could go car free 99% of the time, there is always that 1% when you NEED a car. Something like your child breaks their arm and needs to get to the hospital.
 
Old 02-09-2011, 04:12 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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Even if you could go car free 99% of the time, there is always that 1% when you NEED a car. Something like your child breaks their arm and needs to get to the hospital.
Just got a visual of a man taking his wife-in-labor to the hospital on a bike.... LOL!
 
Old 02-09-2011, 04:22 PM
 
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Total up how much you spend on cars/trucks (add everything not just gas) you own then read the story to see if you can keep all that car $$$$ for yourself...........

You will find that total to be shocking kings ransom!!

How to Be a Car-Free Family by Angela and Dorea Vierling-Claassen
Wouldn't give up my car for nothing. I don't like riding public transportation its inconvenient, not all that cheap in itself, and I dont like riding with others. I wanna enjoy my coffee, have a smoke and blast my music.

I drive a Camry so 4 cylander not bad on gas, havn't had to make any repairs in the past 8 years with the exception of a stabalizer bar I replaced myself witha fiend for like $150, aside from that just oil changes.

Even if you live in a large burb like 100K plus public transportation really sucks. In the city I may consider it but even in large burbs public transportation is non existant in my state.
 
Old 02-09-2011, 04:44 PM
 
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I took the bus for awhile when I was working as a temp downtown and the time it took, along with the crowding, smells (either too much perfume or the person obviously hadn't bathed in awhile), waiting in cold weather, etc. was not a pleasant experience. There is so much freedom in having a car - I would not give mine up, even tho I live in a city.
 
Old 02-10-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Before the vast majority can save serious $ by riding bikes, we as a nation need to spend serious $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ rethinking how we live and develop. Until then, the infrastructure for many to go "car free" simply doesn't exist. There is no car share to borrow from when the need arises. There is no reliable public transportation available 24/7. You can't do all the necessary shopping by bike. Etc., etc. etc.

Even if you could go car free 99% of the time, there is always that 1% when you NEED a car. Something like your child breaks their arm and needs to get to the hospital.
all true but to dramatic really. Also if a person isn't smart enough to deal with that 1% they need a better plan.
 
Old 02-10-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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all true but to dramatic really. Also if a person isn't smart enough to deal with that 1% they need a better plan.

...Many of us refuse to live in stinking, crowded cities.

To say nothing of living a life where our freedom (Of movement) is restricted


Buddy of mine says a "Man" will have three things to be a truly free man:
A Weapon to defend himself, his loved ones, and his possessions.
Land, so he can do WTF he wants.. (Man, castle etc)
A vehicle so he can go where he pleases, when he pleases.


Something to that...
 
Old 02-10-2011, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Dramatic? I don't see any drama in those statements.

There's no car share program in my town. The nearest bus stop is over three miles from my home. Half of the roads in my area don't have a bike lane or even a shoulder. The last time that I ordered a cab, and I had to call three regional companies before I found one that would send a car out here, it didn't show up!

I'd love to see that woman in the photo haul those two kiddies and a couple of sacks of groceries around in a city like Pittsburgh.
 
Old 02-10-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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I'd love to see that woman in the photo haul those two kiddies and a couple of sacks of groceries around in a city like Pittsburgh.
Why did you single out Pittsburgh?
It actually has mass transit, cabs and ZipCars available.
Plus it is becoming very bicycle friendly....
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