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Old 01-06-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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Back on topic of "does anyone live without a refrigerator or with a very small one". Thanks.
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:21 AM
 
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TallyTom you didn't say YOU want to live without a fridge....so is your question just one of interest as to why Americans have big refrigerators? Are you asking about the lifestyle of people who only have dorm size or under-counter fridges, and why and how the manage?

I suppose it's something to ponder, but in terms of things Americans have that are bigger than elsewhere -- a refrigerator would never have occurred to me. I lived in Italy and many people their have smaller fridges. Actually my apt did not, but others had small under counter ones. But, as has been said, in a culture where you buy fresh food every day -- like Europe and elsewhere -- you can more easily have -- get by with -- a smaller fridge. Also just because you can get by with a smaller fridge, doesn't mean it wouldn't be more convenient to have a bigger one.

Is your interest because in recent years even more middle class people have gone to two fridges (not to mention a freezer) or have four ft wide double fridges -- like the high end ones.

If you're talking about a regular 33" fridge like most of us grew up with I don't see that that is soooo over the top that wondering about it is even an issue. It's a fridge. Americans have fridges. Who'd even WANT to live with out one? It's not like it's a 84" smart computer TV that is clearly a luxury. It's a fridge..which is seen and accepted as a necessity -- or at least a basic appliance -- by most people. Do most people need a six foot wide SubZero, no? But your basic 20 cubic foot fridge? what's to ponder?
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:31 PM
 
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More and more people are getting curious about living an OFF-GRID life, and a frig uses ELECTRICITY! I am also very interested in any USEFUL ideas/suggestions that can be offered. Maybe the rest of you should just lurk this thread and not post. You might learn something.
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:30 AM
 
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More and more people are getting curious about living an OFF-GRID life, and a frig uses ELECTRICITY! I am also very interested in any USEFUL ideas/suggestions that can be offered. Maybe the rest of you should just lurk this thread and not post. You might learn something.
Refrigerators also run off of PROPANE! If you want to learn more more about living off-grid you should probably start reading the Self-Sufficiency and Preparedness forum.
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:42 AM
 
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Refrigerators also run off of PROPANE! If you want to learn more more about living off-grid you should probably start reading the Self-Sufficiency and Preparedness forum.
It wasn't posted in that section. It was posted here. I am very familiar with that section, and I don't consider propane an Off Grid option.

Back on topic......
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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Ideas regarding living-off-grid can fit well into a plan for frugality.

There can certainly be cross-overs amongst forums. Everything is not a clear-cut dichotomy.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:22 PM
 
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TallyTom you didn't say YOU want to live without a fridge....so is your question just one of interest as to why Americans have big refrigerators? Are you asking about the lifestyle of people who only have dorm size or under-counter fridges, and why and how the manage?

I suppose it's something to ponder, but in terms of things Americans have that are bigger than elsewhere -- a refrigerator would never have occurred to me. I lived in Italy and many people their have smaller fridges. Actually my apt did not, but others had small under counter ones. But, as has been said, in a culture where you buy fresh food every day -- like Europe and elsewhere -- you can more easily have -- get by with -- a smaller fridge. Also just because you can get by with a smaller fridge, doesn't mean it wouldn't be more convenient to have a bigger one.

Is your interest because in recent years even more middle class people have gone to two fridges (not to mention a freezer) or have four ft wide double fridges -- like the high end ones.

If you're talking about a regular 33" fridge like most of us grew up with I don't see that that is soooo over the top that wondering about it is even an issue. It's a fridge. Americans have fridges. Who'd even WANT to live with out one? It's not like it's a 84" smart computer TV that is clearly a luxury. It's a fridge..which is seen and accepted as a necessity -- or at least a basic appliance -- by most people. Do most people need a six foot wide SubZero, no? But your basic 20 cubic foot fridge? what's to ponder?
Mainly, I wanted to know if people were living without a large (standard size or bigger) refrigerator, or none at all. I started reading a blog a few years ago about a guy who lives without a refrigerator (by choice---he wanted to---here in the US), and it was pretty interesting to see how he handled cold food storage and/or modified how he ate to manage without a fridge. Then when I moved to Mexico for two years, I noticed a lot of people there either have a much smaller fridge and others, none at all. I have never lived completely without a fridge, but have managed well with a pretty small one---while south of the border and in the UK. I don't think my post was judgemental at all---I never said having a regular fridge was "soooo over the top", as you say.

I appreciate everyones' responses, by the way!
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:07 AM
 
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It wasn't posted in that section. It was posted here. I am very familiar with that section, and I don't consider propane an Off Grid option.

Back on topic......
Yes, it was posted here. I've only known three people who have lived off grid and they all used propane.

I never did answer the question. I've never lived without a refrigerator. I've lived for a month here and there with a cube dorm sized fridge, once with an under the counter and a couple of times with a quite small upright. I have rarely lived (even in Europe) within walking distance of a central market or shopping hub.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:39 AM
 
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*raises hand*

I'll answer. I've been living without a frig/freezer since July 4th, 2012. It wasn't by choice. My pre 1985 finally died, and I just haven't spent the money to replace it. Quite frankly.... it's on the list, but the list keeps getting longer. UGH! Because I live in an all electric place, and I count kilowatts the way some women count calories, I'm constantly figuring out how to tweak the electric usage.... one baby step at a time.

It's just me, a dog and a cat. Nobody else. I pretty much spent the summer living on Chunky Soups. Not fun, at all. I do have a Dollar General 1/4 mile away and once or twice a week, I would purchase a tombstone pizza.

Now that old man winter has set in, I'm using the car and ice chest coolers as my refrigeration. It's not an ideal situation, but I'm trying to research alternative ideas.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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I could conceivably live without a refrigerator. I pass one grocery store on the way home from work and there's another just a few blocks from home so I could pick up items when I needed them.

The downside is that I'd have to pay more per serving since I'd be limited to buying perishables in single-serving packaging, and wouldn't be able to prepare inexpensive soups and casseroles and freeze the leftovers. So overall I believe I save more money by having a refrigerator.
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